*** LOG OPENED: Thu Aug 14 01:00:42 1997 --- Participants: Disabled (disabled@trantor.student.utwente.nl) ChanServ (nanook@eskimo.com) DopeHat (khodgdon@ionet.net) Mimi_ (mimi@lino.com) Mooooooo (dse@pacific.net) IgnoreMe (dse@pacific.net) HelloKit (carlym@u.washington.edu) belle`` DNISnv CincyKid (AMCgroup@support-group.com) Amazin1 Fenicia haa Misty T_J capwriter Countrybo Mooooooo via Telnet (dse@pacific.net) --- IT LOOKS LIKE SOME NEW FOLKS The Log is on lots of new folks!! *** DAN has joined #disabled welcome Dan :o) * belle`` Welcomes $$1 to the channel!! COUNTRYBO I LIKE YOUR COLORS * Countrybo is so far removed from romance he doesnt remember what it was lol 2 kids and 17 yrs of marriage do that to ya Ok Carly :o) *LOL* I hear ya CB ;o) worse 5thing you can hear at night? dad mom what are you two doin? lol THANK YOU MIMI, HOW ARE YOU? *** HelloKit has left irc (Ping timeout for HelloKit hr-or-ts1-ip1-035.linkport.com]) Carly just pinged out eek yep *ROFL* CB i HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM COUNTRYBO I'm great Dan and you? *** HelloKit has joined #Disabled Whoa... what was that all about??? GREAT! * belle`` Welcomes HelloKit to the channel!! wb Carly ;o) I just got like 3 fatal exception errors in a row... you were naughty * belle`` is having trouble with the popups Heh... I guess. I didn't do anything except start telnet... That motherboard must not like ya Kit! HEY DOPEHAT, HOW ARE THINGS IN OKLAHOMA? Heh... I guess not! LOL thanks Keith :o) Ok * Mooooooo is ready :o) ARE WE READY TO START? * DopeHat is ready yes :o) i thought we did? yep :o) start? go * Mooooooo is ready to rumble SURE * belle`` missed something!! shoot *** myrna has joined #disabled OK AS LONG AS WE SKIP ROMANCE OKAY... EVERYONE KNOWS I'VE HAD A HECK OF A TIME COMING UP WITH ROMANCE TOPICS, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I BORE YOU TO DEATH TONIGHT. hi myrna okie FIRST, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EXCITING ROMANCE STORIES OR NEWS TO SHARE? hello everybody no apologies :o) WHAT IS ROMANCE? YES...give the kid to the parents for a weekend and go off my yourselves, it works wonders :o) Not yet, but I plan to when I get to Dallas :o) I sort of remember that word...from long ago * HelloKit smiles at Mooooooo. Guess that was it :o) much sympathy, myrna. thanks cap MY HUSB ASKED ME NEVER TO MARRY ANYONE IF HE DIED AND THAT WAS ROMANTIC FOR HIM Why is it so quiet all of a sudden? WELL, I DO HAVE SOME NEWS... hope it isn't my breath lol awwww...that's sweet haa :o) lets se softball baseball swimming lessons summer classes work home life now soccer 2 kids two sep teams two schedules everynight of week who has energy for romance? lets have it carly I have lots of energy :o) wow CB :o) Ok i have a short story for ya, when your done carly. I guess that's where I'm headed AS A FEW OF YOU ALREADY KNOW, MY 'UNOFFICIAL FIANCE' CHRIS AND I ARE GOING ON VACATION AGAIN... wow cool hk Yep :o) THIS IS OUR SECOND BIG TRIP TOGETHER - WE'LL BE TAKING THE BUS FROM OREGON TO RHODE ISLAND TO VISIT HIS FAMILY. WHERE CARLY wow!!!!!!!! sounds official ;o) x country even Greyhound bus? * Countrybo is jealouse You're gonna have buns of steel after 12 days on a bus YES, MYRNA. lol *** DopeHat has left irc (Ping timeout for DopeHat tulnas1-27.ionet.net]) oh boy Take amtrak IT'S NOT 12 DAYS, ONLY 3 DAYS EACH WAY. I'd rather take the bus I think oh, ok My last exe it will seem like 12 It would be enough to kill me I think Carly :o) Don't forget the blanket. AMTRAK IS $800 JOHN, GREYHOUND IS $158 experience on Amtrak was bad brb gotta kiss Felix goodnight :o) Hurry back, Mimi_ We'll miss you how well does bus travel work with wheel chairs? whoa doesn't anybody hitchhike anymore? BYE MIMI not well with wheels .. bad experiences!!! I think they tie the chair to the back of the bus and roll ya there klol I'M NOT TAKING MY WHEELCHAIR THIS TIME - BUT I HEARD AT LEAST GREYHOUND ISN'T GOOD FOR WHEELCHAIR TRAVEL. tow bar close there *** AmyWonder has joined #Disabled hook under lip Amy!!! :oD greyhound is not wheelchair accessible hello amy * belle`` Welcomes AmyWonder to the channel!! hey all KI AMY How many times do you have to change buses Kit? *** DopeHat has joined #disabled HI AMYWONDER * Mooooooo not only welcomes AmyWonder to the channel, he dips her and gives her tender smoochies! :o) * Countrybo checks his scooter batteries lets see 5 miles per charge and 12 hrs per recharge lol I could do it in 5 years lol 3 BUS CHANGES - IN SALT LAKE CITY, CHICAGO AND NEW YORK. wow, thats pretty good hi haa why does it take 3 days? * Countrybo takes it hk can walk YES, I CAN. BRB Hurry back, HelloKit We'll miss you great! *** Misty has left #disabled * Mimi_ is back wb HI AMY things any better witth your kids? I took the bus to San Francisco once and that was too much Hi Amy! :o) i have a romance story Ok Keith :o) let's hear it Keith :o) *** perrito has joined #disabled tell it! hi mimi *** Shashone has joined #disabled but it hasn't happened yet *** jeepors has joined #disabled you still working on it Keith? :o) *** Lorijane has joined #Disabled Cool :o) welcome perrito, Shashone, and jeepors...and lorijane! :o) :o( Hi:0) Hello AMY I AM CONVINCE I HAVE NORMAL HAPPY KIDS DETICATED TO DRIVING ME NUTS! howdy *** jeepors has left #disabled *** perrito has left irc (Read error to perrito 200.5.222.21]: Connection reset by peer) its part of the contract isnt it? haa, :) eeek! Hello and thanks Mimi how long has this channel been here? Hiya Shashone! *** belle`` has left irc (Leaving) my pleasure :o) Since Feb 18 WHAT WAS YOUR STORY, CINCYKID? It was on AnotherNet before that they are just paying us back for what we did to our parents lol hello Mooooooo, long time no see /:o) I thought it was romantic anyway- love over adversity * Lorijane slaps Lorijane around a bit with a large trout Tell us :o) opps I'm training myself with this irc stuff During our recent visit to the hospital-- I saw an unusual happening A wedding in the intensive care wow wow COOL! awww :o) cool! bride and groom were not the patients by the way... cool were the patients getting married? oh oh my God really? wow... doctors? Their child was in ICU... YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME CRY... wedding - a BIG one had been already planned... me too But life threw a curve as it always does... ROMANCE - IJUST WORRY MY 15 YEAR OLD WILL FORGET TO WEAR A RAINCOAT * Mimi_ tears up but the couple decided to have it there in the hospital.. THAT'S NEAT... with all the nurses and doctors and everyone else as guests.. thats sweet :o) In all it was a happy ending-- but i wonder where did they honeymoon! LOL :o) that's love :o) True story I have a question to ask... in ob ward lol Ok! lol GO AHEAD, MIMI. LOL COUNTRYBO scarey place that ob ward FOR ALL YOU MARRIED PEOPLE...WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL OR NOT, TO PUT THE ROMANCE BACK IN YOUR MARRIAGE? AND HOW DID IT TURN OUT? stayed married g'nite all..... :) night Denise :o) nite Denise :o) today is NOT the day to ask me about my marriage *** Amazin1 has left irc (Leaving) Kicked the kids out, that helps a lot Mimi got a divorce I have to wait 18 years for that! hehehe myrna what did you try that didn't work, myrna? brb *** Lorijane has left irc (Leaving) Hurry back, Lorijane We'll miss you we've got about 7 more years to go *** T_J has left irc (Leaving) CB, how, exactly, did you stay married then? he wanted somebody able to keep up with him *** bee-jaah has joined #Disabled * Countrybo thinks we get so wraped up in the kids successes and failures in sports and live in general that that in itself binds the family closer together sharing the joys and tribulations TOGETHER as a whole PHOTOS AND QUOTATIONS ATTACHED TO MY EMAIL ARE TURNING SOME FOLKS ON say what? *** Thorn has joined #disabled bee-jaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi all Hiya Thorn! speaking of photo's....... we had the kids togetther ..we raise the kids together...we stay together hello bee-jaah, Thorn kit hello hello and when the kids are gone CB? what will happen then? HI BEE-JAAH AND THORN... hello the romance will return I think that the couple is first and last, and shouldn't be forgotten in the middle Whats up and what is the topic for today *** Thorn has left #disabled Romance and Disabilities how can it return if it died long ago? the couple should be first...after all, the kids grow up and leave *** phoenyxx has joined #Disabled i heard a rumor the kids never leave for good, they keep coming back... is it true? Hi Simon! exactly myrna...plus the kids will sense a lack of passion between their parents and that's not good IT'S TRUE, CINCY... MY SISTER IS LIVING PROOF... oh no what have I gotten into here..... SIMON!! :O) :-) that is true....I am back at mama's house hey Mimi, Moooo, everyone :-) IF YOU ARE LUCKY THE KIDS LEAVE yes * Mimi_ gives phoenyxx an eye-popping hug :-) im lucky no kids ok everyone...this chat topic is an oxymoron... :-) hi simon sort of like matter and antimatter :-) Has anyone tried anything like counselling, Marriage Encounter, good books, other concrete solutions?? hey DopeHat *LOL* simon Mimi: but it's true.... *** reese_1 has joined #disabled wb reese A LITTLE SECRET, MIMI... CHRIS AND I BOUGHT A MASSAGE BOOK... HEHE the couple has to take or make small times for themselves like when kids are in bed or small overnight interludes....but to muck babysittes and guess who raises your kids? mthe darn babysiter...Kids are a part of yourmlife...you must enjoy them they must enjoy you and you raise and nurture each other..romantic interludes are great but the true romance is in working together as a family BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE... hey! not bad :o) it very simple if you are not happy get out ooooooooooh lala carly :o) MY MOTHER DOESN'T EVEN KNOW... * HelloKit giggles. *** Lorijane has joined #disabled my ex didn't believe in counseling hello wb :o) Hi all. how do you encourage counseling? my ex didn't believe in anything mine neither BEE-JAAH I DO CONSIDER MYSELF LUCKY BUT DO NOT KNOW WHEN THEY WILL LEAVE Same here. *** sheree has joined #disabled HEY SHEREE... hey:o) Sounds like it's his BIG loss, myrna. Hi Sheree :o) and truthfully, I was glad to get out...there was absolutely no romance there its hard enough in tne hetro world but to be gay and disabled and looking for romace as well god that makes for nearly impossabble odds any thoughts people that's definitly something to think about CB...but it seems like somethings missing then I could make a snide comment about that being pornography but I won't :-) hey moooo how are you?:o) brb Hurry back, DopeHat We'll miss you Im geeat!!! gee its busy in here :o) how are you helleokit HAS ANYONE TRIED COUNSELLING ALONE, EVEN IF THE SPOUSE WON'T GO? yes how did it work out? Good, sheree. worked great for me..but it takes two good:o) ya, my ex did, it didn't work. I think you have to go tohether if couples would communicate with each other they wouldnt need the mediation of a counselor lol It does take two. GOOD LUCK - MARRIAGE IS OK BUT DIVORCE IS HELL he said I was over eacting to stuff and when I went to learn about me emotions the doc said I acted normal Easy to get it and hard to get out. If there's one thing I wish for myself and my relationship, it's that I will never treat Chris like my mother treats my father... Ya, divorce is hell. I did it twice. I'm livin with a great lady now though. I call her THE WAR DEPARTMENT. I think I'll find a girlfriend when Charon the ferryman is out of business because the River Styx has ice floes on it and people skating on it. :-) now, now, Simon, give yourself some credit :o) I think counseling isn't necessary if the couple both want to make it work....why not just talk to each other? why involve a third party? absolutely Mimi: you got that? I thought you said my jokes never made sense? :-) * Mooooooo gets out his special decoder ring myrna, sometimes, I think the couple needs help getting the communication going DAN, DO YOU GET BETTER WITH EXPERIENCE? funny thing did the couple communicate befor the marriagre? I got it Simon, which in itself is proof that you'll be finding a girlfriend soon ;o) Yeah, they call Dr. Laura :o) Sometimes you need an objective party. By the way, she just walked out of here saying she's now going to the command center to figure out another attach. hi Mimi: :-) Do you guys think communicating in a relationship is made harder when there is a disability involved? sometimes 'NOT' tslking to each other BUT simply listening to each other is even more helpful just testing again sorry Good point Shashone!! actually hk it has brought me closer to my family haa, they say 3 times is a charm.......I don't wanna find out! I think so. brb Depends on the limitations carly Hurry back, phoenyxx We'll miss you I agree Shashone let me guess, mimi. he won't talk ? my husband and I didn't even speak the same language...it was a mistake from the word go We'll only talk when things get really bad I THINK IT BECOMES EASY TO BLAME IT ON THE DISABILITY thanks myrna *** amyhi has joined #disabled er, HE'LL only talk that is thats a cop out yes haaa hello Amy hi moooooooo et al Well, my epilepsy has nothing to do whatever with anything what's a cop out CB? the line goes for better or worse sickness and in health doesnt a person's promise mean anything anymore? IT SEEMS LIKE DIVORCE IS A COP OUT YES Some people are looking for an easy way out. For example, one thing that causes a lot of arguments with me and Chris, is that I tend to just expect him to know what I need, what I need help with... and I just expect him to keep things in my reach and accessible to me. Myrna, I am a male. What was that you said? I agree, divorce sucks, I'm just looking for a way to avoid life-long apathy blaming the disability on anything is a cop out I agree CB, I plan to get married only once And when he forgets and leaves something where I can't get to it, I flip out... nice plan ignoreMe..but sometimes it does not work out Can you find love a second time? hk nobody said life was easy Let fill you in on a little secret Kit, us men never know what women need! Carly, then you need to change ignore me, we all plan on it being only once! *LOL* true Cincy ;o) Dan, I don't remember what I said.... THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE DIVORCED...WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY IF YOU COULD DO IT OVER AGAIN? i would think not get married I would stay single I know I do, and believe me I try... I've been spoiled though. And it's hard for me to remember that Chris hasn't been around people with disabilities all his life, like my family has. but i am not divorced wow... Mryna.....I'm just being typical male.....I didn't hear it the first time. *** TranSurf has joined #disabled lol lol. what kind of chan is this? you know the most important thing is listenindg and talking to each other ..if you rally love each other YOU WILL work it out...if you cant overcome the obstacles and end up hating each other then bail out its over dont be miserable...but if the love is for real you'll overcome those problems TOGETHER Marry someone else. I THINK DISABILITIES MAKE ALMOST EVERY THING HARDER has any one read Men are from Mars Women are from Venus? What kind of chan is this? Not everything... oh. wow. sorry. bye. *** TranSurf has left #disabled i agree with haa yes amy..it is really the same old story Men are from mars, women are just plain nuts. :o) sure they do of course they do EVERYTHING gets harder ....tougher ..... rougher...but not impossible back no Amy but my therapist recommended it Welcome Back phoenyxx We missed you get outa town moooooooo * Mimi_ slaps Mooooooo around a bit with a large trout. * HelloKit slaps Mooooooo around a bit with a bag of cotton balls. I found it helpful did you read it amy? I SAW A COUPLDE OF ADS ON TV AMY AND IT SOUNHS GOOD I have the book, but have only read bits and pieces. i read some in the airport I think the important thing is to find someone who loves you BECAUSE of who you are, not IN SPITE of what you are. I heard that it's no good because it only inhibits communication by saying that it's impossible for men and woment to communicate i read a bok once, too! I like that saying! brb Hurry back, Shashone We'll miss you easier said than done can somebody send me that beback wave? hey i wasnt disabled when we got married *** gordon4 has joined #disabled heya gordon :o) has your relationship changed countrybo I don't think that's true, Mimi. I think it's just pointing out that there are some big differences between men and women, and we have to work around them. yes So you think I should get it Carly? but you have to read in between the bull how so, countrybo what part is bull? the book is sexist i havent read it http://www.match.com/link.cgi/486296566215/welcome.tpl