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  ChanServ (nanook@eskimo.com)
  Lily
  Lily1
  Lonewolf
  beat
  Mooooooo (azdse@uswest.net)
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<Lonewolf> hi daniel 
<Mooooooo> hi 
<beat> Yea i finnally got mine working last nite 
<Lonewolf> thanks mooooo 
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<Lonewolf> as soon as everyone gets here we will start 
<Lonewolf> anyone else over there? 
<beat> ok 
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<Lonewolf> hey ms how are you? 
<MsAmazin> hiya LW...I'm fine 
<MsAmazin> :) 
<MsAmazin> you? 
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<Lonewolf> ok 
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<Lonewolf> hello everyone the meeting begins now 
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<Lonewolf> remember when you wish to speak type ! for a 
    statement 
<Lonewolf> and ? for a question 
<Gilbert> I can relate to this topic 
<Lonewolf> Our topic tonight is the weather and disabilities 
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<Lonewolf> 1. Does the weather effect your disability and 
    how? 
<Lonewolf> We know that barometric changes effect our body 
    fluids 
<Lonewolf> yes beat 
<Lonewolf> Ms go on while beat types 
<beat> The heat really make my muscles tight 
<MsAmazin> it doesn't affect my disability, but affects my 
    moods 
<Lonewolf> wow two biggies back to back 
<Lonewolf> tight beat? 
<Lonewolf> Ms for the good or bad? 
<Lonewolf> Gilbert 
<MsAmazin> I get kinda gloomy in the winter...I need lots 
    of sunshine 
<Lonewolf> There's a name for that 
<Lonewolf> yes winter is hard 
<Lonewolf> go on Gilbert 
<Gilbert> Same here, Ms. I can just about feel a 
    high-pressure system move in to replace a low-pressure 
    system. It's my mood that reflects the weather 
<beat> Yes they get very tight and sore like i have rum 
    a mile 
<Lonewolf> yup-notice how kids get irritable when a storm 
    approaches=even pets 
<WonderW> the cold hurts my hip and knees 
<Lonewolf> my muscles tighten in cold weather and I spasm 
    more 
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<WonderW> me too 
<MsAmazin> fortunately, it isn't a drastic mood swing...I'm 
    just abit cranky 
<Lonewolf> 1. Does the weather effect your disability and 
    how? 
<Lonewolf> Karen 
<Kark> My knee swells and hip aches just before a heavy 
    rain 
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<beat> Yes sorry that the word i meant i get reall bad 
    spasm 
<Lonewolf> yes increaed body fluids 
<Lonewolf> oh IC beat 
<Lonewolf> mush this is the question 
<Lonewolf> yes, cold weather and rain increases pain (from 
    auto accident and 
<Lonewolf> also just poor mobility making condition worse) 
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<Lonewolf> no that wasn't the question-lol 
<Lonewolf> that was France's answer 
<Lonewolf> 1. Does the weather effect your disability and 
    how? 
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<Lonewolf> For me with rheumatoid-I am miserable 
<Lonewolf> of course rain isn't real easy to get around in 
    either 
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<Lonewolf> any more comments 
<Lonewolf> 2. What type of climate do you reside in? 
<Lonewolf> beat 
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<Lonewolf> I live in a humid climate 
<Lonewolf> MS 
<MsAmazin> desert climate 
<Lonewolf> envy 
<beat> WE get very uot weather in the summer and humid 
<Lonewolf> where is that beat? 
<Lonewolf> Ky here 
<MsAmazin> NV 
<Lonewolf> come on everyone ya gotta live somewhere 
<beat> Brisbane aus 
<Kark> NY here 
<anny1> texas plains very dry 
<Lonewolf> Karen you must get a lot of humidity too 
<Lonewolf> I'm going home with you anny 
<anny1> :) 
<Lonewolf> WW lives in Ca 
<Lonewolf> and Moooooo lives in Arizona 
<Kark> We get snow in the winter, hazy hot and humid in 
    the summer a wet coldy rains early spring and late fall 
<Lonewolf> atr lives in Missouri 
<Lonewolf> yes same here but it gets very hot 
<atrpilot> no so. ILL 
<Kark> we get all sorts of weater, thats why I love it 
    here verity 
<Lonewolf> what beat said earlier interested me because my 
    joint pain is always worse in the heat 
<Lonewolf> oh sorry charlie 
<Lonewolf> anyone else have that? 
<atrpilot> same weather as you LW 
<Lonewolf> Karen 
<Kark> I don't have pain in heat, Mooooooo do you? 
<Lonewolf> Max 
<Woz> guess i march to differnt drum 
<Lonewolf> how so? 
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<Woz> warm &dry better 
<Lonewolf> Ms 
<WonderW> sometimes I do, but mostly I'm prone to heat 
    exhaustion 
<MsAmazin> I *love* hot summers 
<Woz> k 
<Lonewolf> its very humid in Ky so its a hot humidity 
<Lonewolf> Karen 
<MsAmazin> hehe..it's 'dry' 100 degree heat here 
<Lonewolf> :p 
<beat> I'm sorry I'm going to have leave you all early 
    see you all bye 
<Lonewolf> bye 
<Lonewolf> Sis 
<Lily> it hot and humid here in summer, bad, i get 
    immobile 
<Kark> heat exhaution, yes I do tire easy in the heat, I 
    keep the air on 
<Lonewolf> me too on both comments 
<Lonewolf> France says 
<Lonewolf> NY (mediterrean climate of Long Island known as 
    a CSA temperate with 
<Lonewolf> warm summers and somewhat mild winters that have 
    some cold spells of 
<Lonewolf> snow and sleet,. Snow and sleet impairs my 
    mobility and so does ice 
<Lonewolf> as I have poor balance. On ice I require 
    personal assistance. I also 
<Lonewolf> require that for long distances 
<Lonewolf> 3. Why don't wheel chairs come with convertible 
    like tops when it rains? 
<Lonewolf> max 
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<Woz> want input from pilot 
<Woz> hot/cold 
<Woz> humid/dry 
<Lonewolf> charlie? 
<Lonewolf> Karen 
<atrpilot> what? 
<Lonewolf> Max wants to know how the heat or cold effects 
    you 
<Kark> To france's statement before Ice is a real problem 
    for me too, bad balance also 
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<Lonewolf> 3. Why don't wheel chairs come with convertible 
    like tops when it rains? 
<atrpilot> I agree with all that has been said so far!!!! 
<Lily> lol 
<Lonewolf> man of few words 
<Lonewolf> I have a real problem in rain 
<Lonewolf> or snow or ice etc 
<Lonewolf> no top on chair 
<Kark> I think someone should market wheel chair 
    convertables 
<Lonewolf> yes 
<Kark> good Idea 
<Lonewolf> any solutions from anyone? 
<Lonewolf> applies also to walkers or crutches 
<Kark> someday I will say I remember when we first came 
    up with it lol 
<Lonewolf> ali 
<Lily> i just have to stay in 
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<Lonewolf> me too usually 
<Lonewolf> Ray 3. Why don't wheel chairs come with 
    convertible like tops when it rains? 
<WonderW> I have an umbrella type cover, but is hard to 
    put on and cumbersome 
<Lonewolf> Ms 
<MsAmazin> I stay in ...or get wet! 
<Lonewolf> same here 
<MsAmazin> <---crutch user 
<Lonewolf> gotta be a better solution 
<Lonewolf> hard to hold umbrella 
<WonderW> yeah 
<Lily> yes 
<Kark> Impossible to hold the umbrella and crutches and my 
    planner 
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<Lily> channel divides, kark 
<atrpilot> or someone let a real stinker!!!! 
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<MsAmazin> hehe..atr 
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<MsAmazin> I pinged you lily 
<Lily> lol, pilot 
<Kark> I think I might have done something 
<Lily> well, lonewolf cant reconnect to server 
<Lily> and im lagged 
<intrepid> I lost connection, too 
<MsAmazin> no Kark...it happens all on it's own :) 
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<Lily> kark, it happens all the time 
<intrepid> 2 secs, Alison 
<Lily> thx 
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<MsAmazin> I'm still waiting Lily 
<Lily> well, lets resume 
<Lily> hmmmmmmm 
<Woz> 5secL 
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<Lily> moo, can you ping everyone? 
<MsAmazin> ping me 
<Lonewolf> whew 
<Lily> k 
<MsAmazin> thanks 
<Lonewolf> ok Daniel what happened 
<Lily> 2 sec ms 
<Woz> 0sec 
<Lonewolf> I cudn't get back 
<Lily> we all been having trouble, judi 
<Lonewolf> oh so its not just me 
<MsAmazin> wb everyone :) 
<Lonewolf> I tried java and it didn't work either 
<Woz> hehe 
<Woz> oops 
<Lily> no:) maybe it theweather:) 
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<Lonewolf> ok is everyone with us? 
<Woz> k 
<Lily> yup 
<Lonewolf> 4. How many of you have a weather toe or a 
    hand etc? 
<Lonewolf> open talk guys 
<Lonewolf> max 
<Woz> have weather back 
<Ray-1> I have a weather knee. 
<Lonewolf> big toe and hip 
<Kark> me too 
<Kark> knee & hip 
<Lily> shoulder 
<atrpilot> hip 
<MsAmazin> brain? 
<Woz> hehe 
<Lily> lol 
<Lonewolf> how many of you have told a doctor about it 
<Lonewolf> lol ms 
<Woz> k live with it 
<atrpilot> me 
<Lonewolf> did the doc take you seriously 
<Woz> good med answer 
<Lonewolf> lil 
<MsAmazin> I haven't discussed it with Drs...but read books 
    from library about it 
<Lily> actually, ms right, brain swells in humidity 
<Lonewolf> some docs still scoff at the whole notion 
<Lily> brb 
<Lonewolf> yes fluids again 
<Lonewolf> I'm still back at the wheelchair 
<Lonewolf> any of you ever tried those umbrella holders? 
<Kark> for cruches too? 
<intrepid> yes 
<Kark> crutchs 
<Lonewolf> ummmm not sure 
<Lonewolf> do they work ww 
<Kark> WW? 
<intrepid> some are not too sturdy 
<MsAmazin> I haven't, but in wind, it would blow me over! 
<Kark> for wheelchair? 
<intrepid> but some are fine 
<intrepid> yes 
<Lonewolf> hum 
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<Lonewolf> Karen did you have a question for ww? 
<Kark> I wasn't sure if she ment for crutches or chair 
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<Lonewolf> 5. How do we cope with these problems on a day 
    to day basis? 
<Kark> pray for better weather 
<Lonewolf> lol 
<Lily> lol 
<Lonewolf> ok ya got a doc appt and its pouring 
<Lily> take a cab? 
<Lonewolf> really need to go but will get soaked 
<MsAmazin> live in the desert 
<Lonewolf> sandstorm then 
<Lonewolf> no cabs 
<Lily> brb 
<Kark> well the hadicapped parking helps a little 
<MsAmazin> drive my car 
<Lonewolf> sometimes 
<MsAmazin> and get pelted by sand! 
<Lonewolf> yuck 
<MsAmazin> gotta do what you gotta do 
<Lonewolf> I can manage the getting wet better than seeing 
    the weather forecast and knowing wqhat is going to happen 
<Kark> mee to Judi 
<Lonewolf> 6. Can you get out of your home to safety 
    during a hurricane, tornado, 
<Lonewolf> earthquake, fire, etc? 
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<Lonewolf> remember we are disabled-cannot crawl out window 
<Lonewolf> Karen 
<Kark> I has been on my mind a lot lately 
<Lily> bye, gotta go 
<Lonewolf> ok what in particular 
<Lonewolf> bye sis 
<Lonewolf> anny 
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<Kark> I dont think I could get out of my room in a 
    fire situation 
<MsAmazin> if my life is threatened...I can sure crawl out 
    a window 
<anny1> i can getout of window when the motivation is 
    right 
<Lonewolf> yikes-dangerous 
<Lonewolf> well good point 
<Lonewolf> adrenalin works wonders 
<Lonewolf> WW what about you 
<Lonewolf> I know you are not that mobile 
<WonderW> I can crawl 
<Lonewolf> charlie same for you 
<Kark> I am not sure I could open the window or break 
    the windo 
<Lonewolf> true but cud you get out of the house 
<atrpilot> would be hard 
<WonderW> but not up hogh things or ledges 
<WonderW> high 
<Lonewolf> yes 
<Lonewolf> some places have handicapped stickers to place in 
    windows for firemen etc 
<Lonewolf> anny 
<WonderW> I don't know, is hard to get up on knees to 
    open door 
<anny1> one of the things we have being disabled is added 
    risk as well as the added inconvience, its just the nature 
    of the situation 
<Lonewolf> yes-my main intent here is just to get you all 
    to think about this and form a plan of sorts 
<Kark> I have high window and I would have to go head 
    first, my knees don't bend 
<WonderW> good idea 
<Lonewolf> true anny 
<Lonewolf> I have a lifeline and my number and address is 
    registered with emergency services here 
<Lonewolf> along with a small amount of medical info 
<Kark> lifeline? 
<Lonewolf> yes it is an emergecy button I can push if I 
    need help 
<Kark> cool 
<mom> it depends on the situation, but remember, in a fire 
    situ you need to stay close to the ground and if 
    possible, cover your head with a wet towel. 
<Lonewolf> wear it on wrist 
<Lonewolf> anny 
<anny1> that is avery good deal to have lw 
<Lonewolf> yes I highly recommend it to anyone 
<Lonewolf> My elderly aunt had one and fell and broke her 
    hip-help came very quickly 
<Lonewolf> they also have a list of people to call 
<mom> did she have trouble with pushing the button? 
<Lonewolf> it is nationwide so if anyone wants the info 
    just write me 
<WonderW> ok 
<Lonewolf> well actually she fell on her arm (broke it 
    also) 
<WonderW> what about 
<mom> my in-law looked into them and they were too awkward 
    with her arthritis 
<Lonewolf> she was knocked unconscious 
<Lonewolf> I have it also 
<WonderW> when you are outside your home? 
<Lonewolf> yoiu have a choice of a necklace or bracelet 
<Lonewolf> yes 
<Lonewolf> not when you are far away but like in your 
    yard etc 
<WonderW> ok 
<Lonewolf> anypne else? 
<Lonewolf> ok please bear with me for a request 
<Kark> ok 
<WonderW> ok 
<Woz> k 
<Lonewolf> would everyone please join me in a moment of 
    silence for all the people killed in Littleton yesterday 
<Lonewolf> you may pray if you wish 
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<Lonewolf> thank you all 
<Kark> welcome 
<Lonewolf> meeeting is adjourned 
<anny1> k 
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<Kark> its such a traj 
<WonderW> yes 
<Lonewolf> yes awful 
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