*** LOG OPENED: Wed Mar 24 19:04:55 1999 --- Participants: disabled ChanServ (nanook@eskimo.com) Mooooooof (azdse@uswest.net) Lily Lonewolf Kim^^ camille3 atrpilot gismo --- hi *** Woz has joined #disabled-rt hi:) i made it lol, yup logging on? yes Is everyone here? think so missing anny ill watch main Tonight we rae going to talk about the Internet and disabilities Please remember no excess chat type ! for a statement and ? for a qustion Computer World and Disability-Window to the World or Not?" *** Max_Send has joined #disabled-RT Many of us are bed or chair bound and seek companionship across the internet Across computer world our disabilities are not noticed It is very easy to become dependent on the internet for human contact But are we hurting or helping ourselves by this type of isolation? As we all know the internet can be addictive often pushing out family, friends and logic!! ? Kim !yes can i say :) when i want to or that excess chat? yes Kim i think of it as a type of art lol no you can smile especially the pages :) Max please type ! when you have a statement and I will call on you:) 1. Are you a computer addict? ! charlie no ! Lily no, but i am addicted to the ppl i meet here good point you r all so real cam? !some days i am gismo? ! just in winter yes? oh Kim huh? are u addicted to the computer why no:) bull max? :) i refuse to answer sorry Max lol ok woz dont know ! why i can get off after only 3 hrs of chat mooooo? no, im not ! on grounds that ill sound ! stupid! but i am here often just dont pay attention ! actually what you said while ago was another vie point Lily max never sounds stupid no I am addicted totally but I agree with what Max said ! its an art form also Max ? Max? It provides the freedom to a degre of self expression i never had before *** Kark has joined #disABLED-rt sorry true im not a fast typer Lily np do you put it on first thing in am? yes I never turn it off anymore *** captdog has joined #Disabled-RT ! i polish it alot *** anny1 has joined #disabled-rt Karen are you addicted to the internet anny are u addicted to the internet? I use to be, have been using it less lately on purpose? addiction makes it sound like its debilitating Well it can be in some instances don't thinks so lw ! 2. How do you feel in an internet chat versus a realtime chat? Well been tired im addicted to a wheelchair then too! sorry-Lily? Point taken i turn to it nore in winter, when i cant get out Lily? ? Kim ! what is the diff real and internet? face to face versus chat Karen rl instead of puter? no emotion on an internet chat yes to both hard to joke too plus people can't see you ! yes ! true Lily sorry Cam easier to explain face-face i think the computer has replaced the tv set for most of us, and im not sure anyone ever refered to that as an adiction thats why we try and use smilies and ither symbolls yes Cam true Lily ! ! actually max the tv can be an addiction gismo i dont skip work for it kim ppl can't tell i'm joking here or rl ! true lily there are functional alcholics too addiction is usually thought to be something that there is acompulsion to do and is unhealthy lol, kim ooops sorry out of turn and typo lily once you get to know someone well, you can pick up their mood yes lily, agreed not one of the questions but how many of you end up eating a meal while on computer? !!! ME ME ME! ! ! karen me I take that for a yes Kim? I have for a meeting but not as a rule IC gismo a and w rite now anyone else? well I do often sometimes a snack used to eat in front of tv now puter snaks yes yes ! ! cam? snacks yes Karen anyone here think of giving up compiuter for drugs/drink ! They say its bad to eat in front of the TV since you dont feel like you ate and tend to eat again Karen oh that's interesting Lily overeating i can do all 3 at once, max:) lol I can see that Karen ! i know ive stopped taking lots of ainkillers cause they interfere with my computer time cam thats why i'm still hungry huh cud be 3. Do you hide behind your computer or simply use it as a means of support and friendship? Let me clarify Hide as in hide from the public eye yes replace human contact with it no yes ! cam no ! 1 cam first yes but i find much human contact teious and painfull i use it to commuicatewith daughters and here tedious which is good Lily i still have friends, but have made many tho' this room ! and play games :} charlie no Karen i haven't been human contacted in so long not sure it still works:( KIM lol sorry I use to find it easier here but now I think a 10 min conversation on phone or in person last 1 1/2 hrs online Karen yes it does ? ! Mooooo what's your thoughts here Kim is that good kark? im not sure i can relate on or off ! Karen go ahead ! i can joke more in here then in person Lily i use my PC mainly for chatting or emailing, its a way of meeting and communicating I like the hearing expression better then typing Max i vote we start given us slow typers voce recognition software lol but love you guys did Imiss anyone? The one thing nobody mentioned was personal appearance ! personal appearance means nothing Lily ! ! rofl ! Karen Of course that's a plus here. no judgement if they can't see ya u can lie abt that, ppl do,but then what ifu want to meet? true cam idon't worry how i look in here :) hehe me either anny ! ! Lily i have lived with the way i look long enough that it doesn't keep me from socializing face to face when i want u get interested in a persojns mind, not how they look Max ! Ive been described as fell from the top of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down,,, god bless 'im. ,, dont get me wrong but my appearance isnt a bragging matter so are u more comfortable on the computer? Karen Someone here in NY was killed by the person they went to meet who they were having an online relationship im not uncomfortable, but i think others are more comfy its scarey yes *** MsAmazin has joined #disabled-rt you never know who the person really is Myself I have gained a lot of weight since years of cortisone-I am not comfortable with my appearance Ms are you computer addicted? ! absolutely Lw :) Karen ! I went to Florida and met someone from online it was a nice experience that was good *** camille3 has left #disabled-rt anny has the same disability as me great anny go on ! part of the appeal of compter is comvience, no effort required to be *lurking is a neat way to observe the inner workings of a chat room and it's folks. interacting i've met 2 one great and one a dud:) i met a lady id had a steamy online thing with,,, gawd, he was uglier than me,,,bless his soul Lily ive met someppl from here too, and they are terrific back up Max he max? your lady was a he? lol he? lol bad experience I gather yeah, like y'all never get fooled lol i thought it was hysterical ! Lil i been fooled, but never met them face to fade face same here 5. Do you think the internet has helped or hindered you? 3 we had a cpl drinks at the bar and scared some women and went home :) ! helped how? ! it got me a job and a girl to marry Big help ,it is like having the whole worlds access on my desk. great another great ! It helped me because I was becoming very introverted anny helped me meet you guys which is a plus yes definately ! *** captdog has left irc (Quit: captdog) lil yes, anny, i agree 6. What steps should we take to prevent or stop internet addiction? why take any???? :) lol there ya go when it starts interferring with real life it can be harmful if this is addicted i like it oh, I'm not at that point...yet well I just about am ! ! lil when real life is harmfull, maybe my lil adiction is a good thing i am, kark, the ppl i meet are becoming real Karen i mean, they televised a guys muder on tv,,,,they wouldnt do that to a criminal ! I think it has helped me a great deal, found people I can relate too but now I plan hrs and stick to the sched Obviously there is good and bad gismo when u talk on the phone is it real? *** tsp has joined #Disabled-rt if you know the person face to face ! tsp we are discussing internet addiction Karen ! ? mean the 2000y virus in computer ? Kim I sometimes go weeks without seeing or speaking to ppl not on here I don't really chat online with people I can talk to face to face or by phone true anny are face to face relationships more valuable than internet? good question ! Lily no, they just different, this way onlyway for many ! Karen I agree with Lily ! gismo ! agree ! i live in small town am 1 of 2 paras there nice to meet others yes Max same here gis *** tsp has left #Disabled-rt relationships can only have the value we give them, not more or less, profound :) I feel like moderation is the key ! Lily i know many ppl face to face that i care less for than internet friends yea what she said oops sorry !! icosider many here as closer fiennds than theones who deserted me after my dis. yes ! Karen i got to feel for many here, but felt that I was getting attached and maybe scaring away people so I backed away How many of you panic henyour computer is down oh Karen why? ME ! Lil ! ME!! anny '! ! me too woz disappointed but not panic gismo bummer ! me max ! i know ppl on here i wouldnt mind having for dinner, while i wouldnt let my neighbors in here on a bet, and when puter is down its a challenge to fix IC Woz computer is part of me lol, max lol max ok max me too woz