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Regarding Mike3161

Discussion about administrative actions taken in the chat room.

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TiGgEr
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Regarding Mike3161

Post by TiGgEr » 3 years ago

So it happened again, yes again, and I would like to apologise for having let it continue this long but I am a hopeless diplomat, I really thought talking we could get somewhere but I have failed, so now it's time to action.

Susan tried to join in the conversation that was turning into a racist attack on another member, it was a benign comment, possibly a bit of a joke and that's how everybody took it, most people did not understand Mike3161's reaction when he started calling her a bitch he even joked back himself before throwing a temper tantrum threatening to never come back and withdraw funding but let's slow down and have a look at this step-by-step .

I'm going to show the lines which were said which led up to what happened without everybody else speaking but I will also provide the full transcript so everybody can see the full context in its entirety but it started with the following

[14:32:39] <friend> who ate camel meat?
[14:32:59] <mike3161> only someone from pakistan
[14:33:15] <friend> yes
[14:33:23] <mike3161> or someone who heards goats
[14:33:44] <friend> yes
[14:33:53] <mike3161> or have sex with them
[14:35:45] <friend> who ate turkey and gunieafowl up
[14:36:15] <friend> ???
[14:37:52] <friend> want to travel of pakistan?
[14:38:18] <mike3161> no i dont want to fuck a goat
[14:38:38] <boynamedsue> mike3161  u might enjoy it
[14:38:50] <friend> who want to travel of pakistan?
[14:38:58] <boynamedsue> nope
[14:39:35] <mike3161> i would rather do that then have sex with bns
[14:39:36] <boynamedsue> mike3161  i was just teasing ya
[14:39:39] <friend> boy why?
[14:39:58] <friend> hii
[14:40:08] <boynamedsue> friend  y what
[14:40:30] <friend> mee too are
[14:40:51] <mike3161> you can save that and tell daniel or tigger if you want to sue i dont care

So I think we can see at this point right up until that last line, it looks like Mike3161 making racial jokes at the expense of another chatter who asked some very simple questions,  and that Mike3161 pretty much opened himself up for any comments back, and I do believe that if it had been anybody other than Susan, it would have been taken as a joke, the only thing I cannot work out is if Susan said "you might enjoy it" in reference to eating the meat, which considering the time to the possibly is, it was a bit too much of a quick response for the having sex with a goat comment, or it was a reference to having sex with a goat , and I'm sure I have no need to remind everybody that we are an international room with people of different races, religions, etc but then the next thing happened which do not understand why, so let's have a look at that

[14:43:26] <mike3161> so i am glad that you are willing to funbd this site for the next 10 years because i am pulling my funding as of now and you wont see me back here  again so yuou can tell daniel the next time he wants to go see his mom to ask you for the money

I want to state that Daniel had not been in the chat room for 5 days before this incident, and had no prior argument, quarrel, disagreement with Mike3161

I'm sorry, but what the hell? How did we go from quite obviously joking to grievously insulting and humiliating Daniel in front of everybody, I'm sure you have all seen Daniel's comments on the Facebook group page, he clearly expresses his how this has upset him!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/disabilitiesrus/
(if you are not already a member of the group, send a request and let me know who you are through the chat so I can prove you)

Daniel has carried this room through an ever evolving Internet from its infancy almost 20 years ago through his hard work and his own personal money until recent years where we became more community oriented and reliant on donations. Daniel has also tried hard to get away from this kind of BS by not only stepping down as Admin but also distancing himself from his own chat room! And people still managed to smear his name, is it any wonder these things have happened?

Well, it just goes on, check the transcript, but we can see here the things which have been said are already trying to misconstrue the situation, Susan did not make rude remarks, she tried to joke (although this will be denied) and it was also stated that "she told him to try fucking a camel" which she never did, let's look at the quotes again

[14:32:39] <friend> who ate camel meat?
[14:37:52] <friend> want to travel of pakistan?
[14:38:18] <mike3161> no i dont want to fuck a goat
[14:38:38] <boynamedsue> mike3161  u might enjoy it
[14:39:35] <mike3161> i would rather do that then have sex with bns
[14:39:36] <boynamedsue> mike3161  i was just teasing ya
[14:45:56] <kiki> she told him to try fucking a camel
(bns is an acronym for boynamedsue in the nick which Susan uses)

it will be argued that Susan should be banned for her comments towards them although I will have to admit, in the past the emphasis was always on the other parties, there never used to be a problem with mike3161 until recently, but you see, they have also been asked not to make any comments and to use ignore and very recently I might add

Actually let's revise, there was the forum post posted in both the room and on the Facebook group page, private pleadings from myself, open pleadings in the chat room, a 2nd posting of the forum post in the chat room, private pleadings from moderators, from what I understand phonecalls, and if they could see what Susan said they were ignoring all of these pleas by not using the ignore feature themselves so all parties are in the wrong in that regards!
And let's not forget the racist attack which is also a part of this mess!

So I have had to update Susan's list of instructions in an effort to try and keep the peace, she apologised and agreed to comply as much as possible, if only conversations with the other parties had gone like that!
Please note, I don't expect everybody to be perfect, I am aware there will be slipups!

Taking everything into consideration, I have banned Mike3161 but not just because of the incident with Susan alone, most people should be aware of the temper tantrum policy, it's on the forum, it's on the website (link provided underneath) but also because of his unjustified attack on Daniel and his nasty racist comments towards another member, but we also have a tradition of granting people's wishes when they threaten to never come back in such a way!
http://www.disabilities-r-us.com/polici ... rocedures/

So I'm done, go be a drama queen somewhere else!

below is a copy of the transcript.

TiGgEr
Posts: 30
Joined: 6 years ago

Post by TiGgEr » 3 years ago

This is a copy of the transcript pretty much from the very beginning of what happened to the very end so you can see the full context of what happened.

[14:32:13] <kay> Hi janeway
[14:32:39] <friend> who ate camel meat?
[14:32:50] <kay> How have you been today and how has your day been
[14:32:58] <whippet> you missed her kay
[14:32:59] <mike3161> only someone from pakistan
[14:33:12] <jp> hi jane
[14:33:15] <friend> yes
[14:33:23] <mike3161> or someone who heards goats
[14:33:26] <kay> darn
[14:33:41] <whippet> we ride them lol
[14:33:44] <friend> yes
[14:33:53] <mike3161> or have sex with them
[14:33:57] <Suzi> Bbl Tc everyone
[14:34:00] Suzi ([email protected]) left irc: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client
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[14:34:08] <whippet> you ok kay
[14:34:09] <kay> Hi lovely
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[14:34:21] <whippet> hi lovely
[14:34:26] <kiki> back with yet another name
[14:34:28] <kay> Yes I'm okay thank you for asking
[14:34:31] <jp> hi lovey
[14:34:36] <whippet> ok
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[14:35:13] <whippet> i can't keep up with the dam name changes lol
[14:35:40] <boynamedsue> whippet  i cant either that y wasnt typing
[14:35:45] <friend> who ate turkey and gunieafowl
[14:35:45] <kay> Whoever keeps changing their name should go sit in a corner and think about it
[14:35:48] <friend> ?
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[14:36:10] <whippet> what suzi lol
[14:36:15] <friend> ???
[14:36:34] <boynamedsue> kay  Loveydovey  i think getting disconnected allot
[14:36:37] <divinegimp> @[email protected]
[14:36:57] <kay> Why is she having a problem like that
[14:37:23] <boynamedsue> maybe on wifi on tablet or phone
[14:37:33] <kay> Never know who I'm talking to that way
[14:37:37] <kay> It's confusing
[14:37:43] <whippet> hue, due, barny mcgrew cuthbert, dibble and grub lol
[14:37:52] <friend> want to travel of pakistan?
[14:37:52] <jp> bbl
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[14:38:18] <mike3161> no i dont want to fuck a goat
[14:38:38] <boynamedsue> mike3161  u might enjoy it
[14:38:50] <friend> who want to travel of pakistan?
[14:38:58] <boynamedsue> nope
[14:39:13] <whippet> good god mike, nor do i mate
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[14:39:35] <mike3161> i would rather do that then have sex with bns
[14:39:36] <boynamedsue> mike3161  i was just teasing ya
[14:39:39] <friend> boy why?
[14:39:41] <Loveydovey> Hello everybody
[14:39:58] <friend> hii
[14:40:08] <boynamedsue> friend  y what
[14:40:12] <Loveydovey> Im new
[14:40:30] <friend> mee too
[14:40:33] <whippet> hi loveydovey
[14:40:51] <mike3161> you can save that and tell daniel or tigger if you want to sue i dont care
[14:41:03] <Loveydovey> Im trying to find a boyfriend on this site
[14:41:08] <boynamedsue> Loveydovey  are hitting something that makes u exit by mistake
[14:41:38] <boynamedsue> mike3161  they will see it anyway
[14:41:39] <friend> bye
[14:41:48] <mike3161> dont care
[14:41:52] <divinegimp> this is not thee site for dating
[14:41:53] <Loveydovey> My wifi isnt great
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[14:42:12] <whippet> hi dj
[14:42:16] <boynamedsue> Loveydovey  if u want dating this aint the place
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[14:42:20] #Main: mode change '+h dj' by HandiBot![email protected]
[14:42:27] <kay> Hi DJ hugs:)
[14:42:29] <kiki> hey dj honey
[14:42:48] <dj> hi kay and kiki hugs to you two
[14:43:03] <kay> Hope your day is been good
[14:43:11] <boynamedsue> dj  Loveydovey  thinks this is for dating
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[14:43:26] <mike3161> so i am glad that you are willing to funbd this site for the next 10 years because i am pulling my funding as of now and you wont see me back here  again so yuou can tell daniel the next time he wants to go see his mom to ask you for the money
[14:43:33] <kay> hi krijn
[14:43:36] <kiki> sorry dj the weather never let up, we didnt make t down that way
[14:43:40] <Krijn> hello folks
[14:43:42] <divinegimp> @[email protected]
[14:43:53] <whippet> hi krijn
[14:43:59] <divinegimp> ok bye?
[14:44:04] <dj> yeah its been messy here too
[14:44:07] <kay> Why are you angry Mike
[14:44:42] <divinegimp> ok bye?this chat can be messy but all the mess can be avoided
[14:44:51] <mike3161> because sue is nothing but a bitch and i dont really care for her
[14:44:53] <Loveydovey> Im looking for friends here too
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[14:45:17] <divinegimp> oh well looking for friends is good
[14:45:17] <kay> What did she do to you Mike
[14:45:24] <whippet> are you disabled loveydovey
[14:45:29] <boynamedsue> kay  i did nothing
[14:45:34] <kiki> she made rude remarks to him
[14:45:45] <kay> I guess I missed the whole thing
[14:45:55] <whippet> we all have bad days
[14:45:56] <kiki> she told him to try fucking a camel
[14:46:06] <Loveydovey> Yes mild retardation and i have a walker
[14:46:13] <divinegimp> hmm
[14:46:34] <kay> Susan why would you say something like that
[14:46:37] <whippet> oh sorry to here that
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[14:47:00] <kay> hi chatty
[14:47:10] <whippet> wb chatty hugs
[14:47:15] <Loveydovey> Its cool cause its not really notiable
[14:47:28] <dj> hey chatty
[14:47:32] <boynamedsue> this is y 6mike3161: no i dont want to fuck a goat
[14:47:33] <boynamedsue> 5boynamedsue: mike3161  u might enjoy it
[14:47:45] <whippet> oh thats good then
[14:47:52] <Chatty> Hey DJ babe are u ok
[14:48:03] <kay> I'm getting tired please be good to each other bye for now
[14:48:06] <boynamedsue> kay  i was jkk
[14:48:09] <dj> yeah im just trying to underdtand this
[14:48:35] <dj> i thought you were supposed to be ignoring him
[14:48:43] <kay> PS it's not funny Susan
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[14:48:47] <divinegimp> mike did say the goat thing
[14:49:06] <divinegimp> i can screensnap it?
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[14:49:17] <kiki> susans remark was out of line
[14:49:21] <boynamedsue> hi Frank
[14:49:21] <Frank> Howdy Hoe wee back home
[14:49:25] <Frank> kiki sup
[14:49:29] <whippet> wb frank
[14:49:30] <Krijn> wb frankie
[14:49:33] <Loveydovey> Im a great kinded person with a very big heart and been cheated on so many times so im hurt and very unhappy right now
[14:49:38] <kiki> nothing much frank
[14:49:39] <Frank> boynamedsue what's going on in your world
[14:49:40] <dj> it dosent matter it will all go to the admin im sure
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[14:49:56] <ScottC45> hello
[14:49:58] <Frank> ScottC45 sup
[14:50:03] <Frank> HHVampire sup
[14:50:05] <ScottC45> hello Frank
[14:50:09] <Krijn> dj admin probably already has it.. well her version of it,
[14:50:10] <whippet> well this is the place for a good chat
[14:50:13] <boynamedsue> dj  sorry my answer i was jk
[14:50:16] <Frank> Loveydovey welcome from Florida
[14:50:30] <divinegimp> hmm perhaps take the time for yourself instead of looking for someone else loveydovey
[14:50:39] <whippet> hi scott
[14:50:52] <Chatty> hugs dj
[14:50:55] <Frank> AnnaTN the TN added after your name make it where I realize which anna you are
[14:51:04] <Frank> Chatty how it going
[14:51:05] <dj> hugs chgatty how are you dear?
[14:51:08] <Frank> divinegimp sup
[14:51:13] <dj> hey frank
[14:51:21] <divinegimp> :)
[14:51:23] <Chatty> I'm great DJ
[14:51:26] <ScottC45> hi whippet
[14:51:33] <Loveydovey> Yeah but its hard right now im feelingbvery deppressed
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[14:51:49] <Chatty> I have a news member In my family
[14:51:56] <Krijn> sue also found it necessairy to comment on something that was said this mor5ning, whippet offered to punch me in the nose (in a joking manner) and sue commented that it would be good for me.
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[14:52:16] <Frank> Loveydovey welcome back
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[14:52:40] <Loveydovey> hi
[14:52:45] <Frank> NOLIERS Welcome from Florida
[14:52:54] #Main: mode change '-b *!*@6A46AC12.6D3085A4.5C441D23.IP*' by dj![email protected]
[14:52:55] <Frank> Loveydovey where you from Florida here
[14:52:56] <whippet> wb loveydovey
[14:53:08] <Krijn> now if i can't tell her to ... then why can she make comments about me
[14:53:13] #Main: mode change '+b *!*@6A46AC12.6D3085A4.5C441D23.IP*' by dj![email protected]
[14:53:17] <whippet> hi noliers
[14:53:32] <kiki> krijn, i asked tigger that question
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[14:53:49] <Frank> I got to lay down bbl
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[14:53:55] <Loveydovey> Im from Maine
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[14:54:11] <whippet> you got the joke krijn
[14:54:13] <Krijn> i have been bending over backwards to not give her a whatfor  but have to accept she does it to me.. its a bit onesided censorship
[14:54:21] <Newblossom13> Hello everyone.
[14:54:35] <whippet> hi newblossom
[14:54:39] <divinegimp> @[email protected]
[14:54:42] <Krijn> even in my reply i was nice and polite.. you saw that eh Whippet ?
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[14:55:03] <Newblossom13> [email protected] whippet
[14:55:07] <whippet> no probs mate, i knew the crack
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[14:55:30] <whippet> hows blossom
[14:55:36] <Loveydovey> Im very shy girl
[14:56:05] <whippet> loveydovey dont worry
[14:56:08] <Krijn> ok i have said my piece, and now i will go ... make sure Tigger checks the  logs please DJ
[14:56:24] <whippet> tc krijn mate
[14:56:36] <Krijn> this was between 9-10 ish in the morning.. my time
[14:56:42] <Krijn> est
[14:56:43] <dj> ok tc Krijn
[14:56:44] <whippet> c u tomorrow
[14:56:45] <Newblossom13> I do not want to bring anyone down. Today, has not been a good day.
[14:56:59] <Loveydovey> But once i get to know you im very funny and sweet
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[14:57:06] Action: Krijn turns around and walks out the room
[14:57:09] <whippet> wb tigger
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[14:57:15] <Newblossom13> I have been quite depressed. I feel so lonely.
[14:57:17] #Main: mode change '+o TiGgEr' by HandiBot![email protected]
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[14:57:29] <TiGgEr> ty
[14:57:39] <Chatty> tigger :D
[14:57:42] <whippet> whys that blossom
[14:57:53] <TiGgEr> Had a small problem I had to resolve
[14:57:54] <Chatty> Hugs whippet
[14:57:54] <whippet> wb debs
[14:57:57] <UKDeb1954> Blood pressure through the roof waiting for cops
[14:58:09] <ScottC45> hi TiGgEr\
[14:58:13] <Newblossom13> My dsughter is moving in a few weeks. My so has his own place as well.
[14:58:15] <whippet> thank you chatty hun
[14:58:32] <dj> hi TiGgEr
[14:58:39] <UKDeb1954> 5 hours someone keeps calling me  must be over 50 calls
[14:58:51] <Newblossom13> My life has been my kids and staying active.
[14:59:00] CTCP action: tickles dj from Chatty (Chatty![email protected]) to #Main
[14:59:00] <UKDeb1954> makes stupid sounds
[14:59:08] <TiGgEr> dj
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[14:59:15] <dj> TiGgEr mon
[14:59:20] <Newblossom13> Now, donto medicsl issues, I cannot do as much.
[14:59:22] <dj> brb
[14:59:24] <UKDeb1954> pains in my chest from frustration
[14:59:41] <Newblossom13> Oops due to medical issued
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[14:59:53] <TiGgEr> Newblossom13, time to have more children or what might be a better idea, get a pet?

Ragman
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Post by Ragman » 3 years ago

it is crazy how opinions of what was said that are not supported by the transcript. Sorry you had to deal with this problem tigger, but anyone that has an issue with it all is probably part of the problem
You do an amazing job administering the chat room.

lily
Posts: 15
Joined: 3 years ago

Post by lily » 3 years ago

I have had to read this more than once to fully understand what was going on, and from what I can tell more than one person was chiming in with some inappropriate comments. Of course, all things are up for interpretation, and being that we are not face-to-face it is difficult to know for sure whether or not someone is making a joke or not; thus, the Smiley Faces. Just the same, when someone goes over the line, and more than once, then it is up to whomever is moderating the room at the time to try to put an end to the situation. Unfortunately, that does not always work. But then I have to wonder about the person, or persons, who are being "bad" at the moment. Is this an ongoing situation or is it a one-time situation? And if the latter, I have to wonder why. I know that there are some people in the room who have some serious issues with alcohol and drug abuse, and if so that could explain some behavior. Just a thought.

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