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Disability discrimination

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Justice
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Re: Disability discrimination

Post by Justice » 3 years ago

The higher ups won't get involved.  I bet if the pastor was marrying two men they would.  I guess they have to pick the issues that they have to get involved with.  I personally think that if the district talked to the pastor and wife that it would make a difference!

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

Maybe I should say the name of the church so people can just call the office.  What do you think?  Is that wrong?

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

First Assembly of God in Olney,  Illinois.  They won't change. 

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

1-618-392-2222 is the curch number if someone wants to call and discuss the disability discrimination with the pastor.  His name is Paul Goss.

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

The pastors wife wants to sing at pastor conferences and she doesn't want people to pay attention to someone other than her.  I think she is jealous of the disabled person because this person is so inspiring! It is my understanding that the pastors wife made a CD.  If people knew that she discriminates against handicapped persons they wouldn't buy that CD!

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

I hear from another member of the Assembly of God church in Olney that now the pastors wife is having someone in the praise band play a percussion/rhythm stick
(?) that hits the floor of the platform to make sound.  I guess that is not distracting but the lady in the wheelchair is!

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

Anyone called yet?

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

If the handicap person would let the congregation know how much it hurt then they would be at least aware of it.  She just says that she is use to it and to forgive.  Hardly anyone knows about it because we left and are not in contact with people there.

Cactus Jack
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Post by Cactus Jack » 3 years ago

Sorry for the necropost/rant.

Acording to the Holy Bible, the chore one has is to first take the issue before their brother they dispute.
If that doesn't work, then you take it before the pastor and the brother.  If that does not resolve it, you take it before the church.  And if that does not work, then you take it to the higher-ups above the church, such as the state leadership in the church-faith.

I had to deal with bigotry in so many churches that I just gave up and quit going. 
“The activist is not the man who says the river is dirty. The activist is the man who cleans up the river.” -Ross Perot

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

I took it up with worship leader, pastor, board members, district leaders and national leaders.  I asked pastor to bring it to the congregation for a vote but no.  He doesn't want members to know.  I don't think he thought that I would inform higher ups but I did.  I even contacted a couple of lawyers but because handicapped person was not paid and had ability to chose to not go there the lawyers said that nothing can be done. 
My brother-in-law was a board member at the time and said that the worship leader had the authority to have whoever she wanted on the platform and I  should respect her authority.  I told him that God was my authority and I was more scared of displeasing him than a worship leader.  I  still do not speak to my brother-in-law to this day.  It broke up our family!  Honestly I lost my family and church fighting for this handicapped person and she now says I am use to people discriminating against me.  Let's forgive and move on!!  While I agree that forgiveness is necessary so is the worship leaders repentance!!  If discrimination is going to stop handicapped persons MUST stand up to these people!

Coll
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Post by Coll » 3 years ago

It isn't your battle.  The one thing I noticed, because of the total absence of it.  You made no mention prayer.

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

Oh believe me.  I have prayed continueously.  So much in fact that I feel like I have neglected praying for my families needs.  I realize that G

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

I realize that God cannot force them to do right.  They have to want to follow God.  The worship leader told me that God approves of the removal of the handicapped person.  I felt like God wanted me to advocate for this person so who is doing what God wants.  Church people are dangerous because they always want to say God told me to do this or that because it makes them feel better about their sins.  Then pastors will tell you that you are going to Hell if you talk about or "gossip" about the wrong committed.  It is a way for the head of the church to get away with sins because you feel guilty to talk to the other members because you don't want to gossip!

Cactus Jack
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Post by Cactus Jack » 3 years ago

You just may be better off finding a different church.  The church itself is not your responsibility, so if they lose you as a member, the group itself won't car. A few individuals, maybe.

I am more concerned about you taking care of you. 
“The activist is not the man who says the river is dirty. The activist is the man who cleans up the river.” -Ross Perot

Justice
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Post by Justice » 3 years ago

I no longer attend there.  Thanks for your concern.  I am healing but certainly not as fast as I would like so I can finally get to the forgiveness stage.  Thanks again.

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