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Participants:
  HandiBot (disabled@lawgiver.megacity.org)
  Fenicia (melief@hotmail.com)
  Mooooooo (dse@pacific.net)
  Dancer
  Antonios
  Mimi (mimi@lino.com)
  HelloKit (carlym@u.washington.edu)
  ChanServ
  judi
  Jody
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<Mooooooo> Jody!!! :o) 
<Jody> Hello!!! 
<Antonios> We are lost alright! :) At least I am! 
<HelloKit> logging is on (maybe) 
<Antonios> looooooooost in spaaaaaaace! 
* Jody HUGS Mooooooo 
<Mimi> Jody! :o) 
<Mooooooo> hold on 
<Jody> Hi Carly.... long time no see.... 
* Jody hugs and kisses Mimi 
<Jody> Hi there Mims.... 
<Jody> what's the subject for tonight? 
<Mimi> :oD *hugs* Jody 
<Dancer> Judi and jody, hello and welcome! 
<Mimi> Disabled animals or some such 
<Fenicia> good night :)) see you a little later :) 
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<HelloKit> Everyone, I'm really sorry I didn't get the 
    meeting reminder sent out this week. 
<judi> I have a disabled chihuahua 
<Jody> oh well... I'm well versed in that... all of my 
    dogs have something 
<HelloKit> Tonight's topic is all about any 'disabled' pets 
    we have ever had or seen. 
<judi> He has congestive heart failure, arthritis and can't 
    see real well any more, he's 13 
<Jody> most of mine fit this category 
<Dancer> That could be the reason for the low attendance, 
    hello! Grin. 
<Mooooooo> please tell me his name isnt 'Lucky' 
<HelloKit> lol 
<judi> Skippy 
<Mooooooo> heh, ok 
<Dancer> Is obesity considered a disability? Grin. 
<judi> We're thinking of building him a little ramp for 
    the door he goes in and out of 
<HelloKit> lol could be Dancer 
<Mooooooo> Im trying to download the picture of my cat 
    Bitsy 
<Mooooooo> with her broken leg in a cast 
<HelloKit> Aww... that would be neat, judi. 
<Jody> judi... you should try accupunture for Skippy. it's 
    done wonders for our dogs... 
<judi> We're getting tired of lifting him in and out the 
    door 
<HelloKit> We've had lots, but I'll let you guys share 
    first before I take up all your time ;o) 
<judi> accupuncture? 
<Mooooooo> i would like to see someone try accupuncture on 
    a cat 
<Jody> yep... for pets. Works great. 
<Jody> our vet does it 
<Mooooooo> we'll see who gets punctured the most 
<Mimi> lol 
<Jody> lol 
<Mimi> jinx 
<Jody> I'm slow tonight! 
<Dancer> I have a Miniature Pinscher named Scooter. She's 
    obsessed with food. She used to sleep with me more often. 
    Now someone has to lift her up because she can't make it 
    herself. 
<Mimi> people use accupuncture on show and race horses all 
    the time 
<Dancer> We raise Jack Russell Terriers, that's what 4 of 
    our dogs are. 
<Jody> we have corgis 
<judi> That's great, Jody. I have wondered if we should 
    have Skip put to sleep, but he's like one of the family. 
<Jody> and they have notorious back problems 
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<Jody> check the other alternatives first.... 
<HelloKit> Sorry 'bout that. 
<Jody> where do you live judi? 
<judi> KY 
<Mimi> wb Carly :o) 
<Jody> horse country.... you should be able to find a vet 
    that can do accupuncture/chiropractics or knows one that 
    does 
<Dancer> Can dogs manage with only three legs? 
<Jody> ssure 
<Dancer> Or two? 
<Mooooooo> ive seen a few dogs do fine with 3 
<judi> I'll ask 
<Mimi> so have I 
<Dancer> Probably not two. 
<Antonios> accupuncture? what does this mean guys? 
<Jody> yep... they have special devices now for disabled 
    dogs... 
<Mimi> a wheelchair like thingy, eh? 
<Mooooooo> accupuncture is chinese medicine. sticking you 
    with needles 
<Jody> it is an asian technique using fine needles to hit 
    certain trigger points on the body 
<HelloKit> Dancer, that was the perfect introduction to one 
    of my pet stories... 
<Dancer> It's relief of pain. 
<judi> Not just anywhere, Antonio, at certain spots to 
    deaden nerves 
<Antonios> Aha! I know what you mean but I didn't know 
    how it is called in Eng... thanx.. 
<Jody> it can trigger thee immune system too 
<HelloKit> We have a Yorkie... she's 5 yrs. old and very 
    small... when she was a puppy someone cut through a tendon 
    in her leg with scissors while she was being groomed... 
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<Jody> ouch! 
<Mimi> heya Jo :o) 
<Jody> poor thing 
<judi> how awful 
<Mooooooo> hi jo :o) 
<Jo> Hi Mimi Dancer, Jody judi Antonios Mooooooo HelloKit 
<judi> hey jo 
<HelloKit> It never healed and she has never been able to 
    put weight on the leg. But she runs around on 3 legs 
    just fine. In fact the other day this little tiny dog 
    killed a rooster! 
<Jody> hiya 
<Jody> lol 
<Antonios> Hello Jo!!! 
<Antonios> :) 
<Jo> Hey ferret face i sitting here next to me. 
<Jo> is not I see his presence has my fingers all 
    confused. 
<Mimi> Does ferret face have a name? :o) 
<Antonios> Hello FF from Piraeus Greece! :))) 
<Jo> Yeah Richard, Rick but he answeres to ferret face 
    too. 
<Jo> Hello Antonios from ff 
<Jody> one of our girls fell off a 15' retaining wall in 
    FL. she broke her back and was paralyzed. they did all 
    kinds of massage and stuff and now she is always on the 
    mmove 
<Mimi> hello Rick :o) 
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<Jo> Hello Mimi aren't you nice. 
<Jody> did anyone see the Fox newschannel special on dog 
    chiropractors? 
<judi> no, tell us about it 
<Dancer> hello, Rick. 
<Jody> well, if you saw it you would have seen our vet 
    and onee of our dogs. they used him because he is 9 but 
    looks 2. 
<Jo> Hello Dancer gee you are nice too 
<Jody> the vet explained the procedure for animals and the 
    benefits 
<Mooooooo> thats quite a compliment :o) 
<Jody> yeah.... they sent a limo for the dog. 
<Dancer> Hey, Jo is he typing for you? Thanks, whichever. 
<Mimi> most of us are :o) 
<Mooooooo> lucky dog :o) 
<Jo> Mimi and Dancer his tummy is full of turkey and 
    dressing. We celebrated a Happy Thanks Birth Giving Day 
    around here today. Only day off this week. 
<Jo> I take dictation well Dancer. He is too slow. 
<judi> That's really interesting. Don't laugh, but I give 
    Skip massages on his legs and let him lay on a heating 
    pad on rainy days 
<Mimi> cool! how fun :o) 
<Mimi> I was baking all day Jo 
<Jody> no... that's good for him 
<Dancer> Mine is tomorrow and Friday. 
<Jo> Yeah me too. Turkey, cookies, stuffing, sweet potatoes, 
    he is well fed. 
<Dancer> Mom, too. 
<Jo> What is Friday Dancer? 
<Jody> do any of you get the wholesale pet catalogs? 
<judi> I never let my pets eat people food 
<Dancer> Tomorrow is Thursday for me. 
<Dancer> Today is Wednesday. I'm in Oregon. 
<judi> Yes, I have seen some, but never ordered anything 
<Jody> the prices are 1/2 to a 1/3 of the pet stores 
<Jo> It's Wed. in Texas too Dancer, we just only have 
    this day off work this week. 
<Dancer> Laughing out loud. 
<judi> When Skip does die, I would like to get a service 
    dog. 
<Jo> Heck ferret face can't stay home on Thurs. he get 
    double time pay. I want the money. 
<Jody> service dog? 
<judi> A dog for the handicapped 
<Dancer> I want one too, but they're expensive. 
<judi> So, I've heard 
<Jody> they aren't supposed to cost anything..... 
<judi> I'm not even sure where you would get one 
<Jo> There are some grants you can get to get a free 
    one. 
<Dancer> Jody, kinda like seeing eye dogs only you don't 
    have to be blind. 
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<Jody> companion dogs.... 
<Jo> Hi KamelRed 
* KamelRed- has returned 
<Mimi> hey Kamel :o) 
<Jody> judi... check the American Kennel Club website. I 
    think they might know.. 
<Dancer> Yeah, only they help with other things like 
    picking up stuff. 
<KamelRed-> Hiya Mimi 
<KamelRed-> Hiya Jo 
<judi> They learn to help with tasks, even dial 911 for 
    help 
<Jody> we have 2 ITD dogs 
<Jo> Yeah they open the fridge, open doors, alert your to 
    the phone and door bell, pick up stuff you drop. 
<judi> What's itd 
<Jody> International Therapy Dog.... they can go to 
    hospitals and stuff like that 
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<judi> oh, thanks for the info 
<Jo> I got two TDD's here, totally dumb dogs. 
* Antonios is back guys 
<HelloKit> lol 
<Jody> lol 
<Jody> I have a couple of those too 
<Jody> did you know that there is a doggie hemophilia? 
<Mimi> wb Antonios 
<Jo> Yeah I got two pound puppies, one is a chihuahua and 
    the other is 30lbs of God only knows what. 
<Jo> wb Antonios of the long hair and brown eyes. 
<judi> No, I thought it was bad when Skip came close to 
    having to have his tonsils out 
<Dancer> I must go eat. I may come back later, but am 
    going to work on a web site. 
<Jo> bye bye Dancer 
<Jody> bye Dancer 
<judi> bye Dancer 
<Antonios> bye Dancer!:) 
<Antonios> C Ya ! 
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<Dancer> My address is correct, they're just having 
    troubles, keep me on the list. 
<Mooooooo> bye Dancer 
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* Dancer hugs everyone. Dance always! 
<Jo> At least she doesn't have four stomachs to feed like 
    mooooooo 
* Antonios hugs Dancer back! 
<Jody> lol 
<Mooooooo> /:o) 
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<HelloKit> lol 
<Jody> hey Carly... I just thought of something. Wasn't the 
    rooster larger than your Yorkie? 
<Mimi> hahahahah 
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<Jo> Hi Pyro 
<Jody> hi Pyro 
<KamelRed-> Hiya Pyro 
<Antonios> Hiya Pyro!:) 
<Pyro> hi 
<HelloKit> Yep, it was, Jody. 
<Jody> tuff little dog.... 
<judi> ok Carly, tell the story 
<HelloKit> Yeah, it was weird... we've never seen her like 
    that before. 
<Mimi> hey Jeff :o) 
<HelloKit> I didn't see it, but my mom said she had this 
    psychotic look on her face... and she was coughing up 
    feathers the rest of the day. 
<judi> lol 
<judi> I can just picture a yorkie with feathers flying 
<Antonios> So, is it a neuropsychotic dog? 
<HelloKit> hehe 
<Jody> lol..... it's that Napoleon complex of little dogs. 
    Mine has it 
<judi> Sounds like shrink time to me 
<Jo> Yeah before it gets in the habit of doing that you'd 
    better cure it. Some farmers have no sense of humor about 
    that stuff. 
<HelloKit> She's usually just a real sweet dog... afraid of 
    everything. She will only go near certain people - my 
    parents, my bf, my younger sis and me. She stays away 
    from the rest of the kids, and she hides and barks at 
    strangers. 
<judi> Skip used to bite everyone's pants legs and hang 
    on, but his teeth aren't good enough anymore 
<Jody> the rooster must have made some kind of threat that 
    you are unaware of... 
<Jo> Now he just gums them to death right judi. 
<judi> Yup 
<judi> My cat attacks him though 
<Jo> roosters are very agressive and territorial. 
<HelloKit> We don't worry about it... the chickens are only 
    a source of eggs, not money. We can replace them cheap. 
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<Antonios> HORSES, ROOSTERS, PSYCHOTIC DOGS, CATS...... 
<Jody> my 24 lb. dog launched herself at a 120 lb. 
    Bernese Mt. dog. It just looked at her. If it could've 
    laughed, it would've. 
<Antonios> IT'S A ZOO IN HERE TODAY! 
<^yOda> h everybody :) 
<Mimi> hey yoda :o) 
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<Antonios> Hello yoda!!! :) 
<Antonios> Hello Tarn19 too!:))) 
<Jo> Oh poor Antonios looking for gentle breezes, calming 
    conversation and agood time and he gets the vet clinic 
    instead. 
<Tarn19> hi - that was my sister's nick 
<Jody> I worked at the zoo. you should see what they do 
    for animals there. 
<judi> I have a friend in Georgia that works in a zoo 
<Tarn19> I've never known what time this channel is - is 
    there anyone here from Sydney Australia? 
<Jo> Sonora, Texas here Tarn19 
<judi> She and her husband built a guinea pig habitat in 
    their back yard 
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<Tarn19> Jo: cool 
<HelloKit> Not sure what time it is there, Tarn... but 
    it's 6:43 here. The meeting started 43 mins. ago. 
<Antonios> when my brothers and I were teenagers, my mother 
    lived in a Zoo! :) 
<Jody> people should get the level of medical care that 
    the animals in a zoo receive 
<Tarn19> its 1:44pm here 
<judi> Ky here and it is now 8:40pm 
<Jo> No warm it was 73 today. 
<Jody> NY: 9:43pm 
<Jo> It is 8:48PM here Tarn19 
<HelloKit> Well then, looks like meetings are 1 PM your 
    time, Tarn. 
<Tarn19> yep I figured that 
<Tarn19> :) 
<judi> Antonios, what time is it there? 
<Antonios> 5:40 in the morning... 
<Tarn19> gee thats early 
<Jody> whoa... you get up that early to join us? 
<HelloKit> Yikes! 
<Jo> Antonios, keeper of the flame, guardian of Olympus. 
<Antonios> I used to be a Vampire when I was young... 
<Tarn19> where u from Antonios? 
<judi> People get up that early? 
<Antonios> Piraeus, Greece 
<Antonios> Ooooops, sorry, wrong clock... 
<Antonios> 4:50 in the morning.... 
<Antonios> SORRY GUYS!!!! 
<Tarn19> thats worse!!!!!!!!!111 
<Jody> man.... 
<Mimi> ack 
<judi> that's worse 
<Mimi> you're nuts :o) 
<Antonios> :oPPPPPP 
<Jo> Ferret face got up that early all the time in the 
    military. 
<Jody> Jo... is Ferret face your husband? 
<judi> My hubby gets up at 4, by himself 
<Jo> Yeah my sweetie pie. 
<Jody> I thought you were talking about your pet :) 
<Mimi> that's nothing, my baby gets up at 1 ;o) 
<HelloKit> lol! 
<Tarn19> thats a good name I might call my b/f something 
    similar 
<Jody> which one Mimi... JF or Alex? 
<Mimi> HA! 
<Jo> No I've had him for 17 years and that is his 
    nickname. 
<Antonios> haha! 
<Mimi> Alex of course...JF sleeps all day if possible 
* HelloKit refers to Chris as her child. 
<Jody> he followed you home one day, Jo and you decided 
    to keep him. right? ;) 
<Jo> Hey he has Emperor Hirohito glasses and false teeth 
    on top. He drops the false teeth over his bottom lip and 
    makes faces at me. Ferret face. 
<Jo> No he heard me on a CB raido and tried to drink 
    the town drunk under the table to find out where I lived. 
<Jody> even better! 
<Jo> Yeah he came back three times before someone took 
    pity on his pocketbook and told him where I was. 
<Jody> lol 
<Jo> Then I couldn't get rid of him so I kept him. 
<Jody> you have to admire persistence.... 
<judi> lol 
<Jo> Anyone willing to take on a widow in a wheelchair 
    with a kid is a definate keeper, especially with his 
    military pay and allowances. he he. 
<judi> Gotta go guys, thanks for cheering me up tonight. 
<Jody> definitely what my aunt calls a 'keeper' 
<Jo> by judi keep smiling. 
<Mooooooo> take care judi :o) 
<Tarn19> bye judi:) 
<Antonios> C Ya later Alligator! 
<judi> Everyone have a happy turkey day 
<Jody> bye judi.... good luck with Skippy 
<Antonios> TC! :) 
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<Jo> Speaking of turkey, ferret face is hungry again so I 
    gotta go heat some up for him. Catch you all another time 
    when I don't have to amuse him. 
<Jody> bye Jo 
<Mooooooo> bye Jo :o) 
<Jo> Mimi Alex is less trouble. 
<Tarn19> cya jo - nice to meet u 
<Mimi> no kidding :o) 
<Jo> bye bye 
<Mimi> bye Jo :o) 
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<Mimi> she's a stitch :o) 
<Jody> how is Alex Mimi? 
<Mimi> he's doing great, thanks, Jody :o) 
<Mimi> getting hungry at the moment 
<Antonios> Hey guys! I saw on TV some days ago, for a 
    guy, who suffered from Parkinsons disease and had a dog, 
    exactly the same like a seeing dog, who'd help him with 
    his life... 
<Jody> ah.. to be a baby and only have to worry about 
    eating, sleeping and, well you know 
<Tarn19> hehe thats tru 
<Jody> they're called companion dogs, Antonios 
<Mimi> I saw that guy too 
<Mimi> or some guy like him anyway 
<Tarn19> In Australia we call them 'pets as therapy' 
<Tarn19> Companion dogs sounds much better tho 
<Jody> Mimi, they have dogs especially trained for people 
    with epilepsy 
<Antonios> It wasn't just a companion dog... this dog 
    helped him walk, he even lened on the dog in the street, 
    and 
<Mimi> that's so cool 
<Tarn19> thats great 
<Jody> apparently dogs have the ability to sense when a 
    seizure is about to happen 
<Antonios> when he had seizure the dog stepped on the 
    guy's toe and stopped the spastic moves... 
<Jody> they are trained to keep the person calm and to 
    alert others 
<Antonios> It was amazing... 
<Tarn19> sstepping on a persons toe stops epilepsy? 
<Jody> Antonios... it is a big movement here in the US to 
    train dogs to aid the disabled. 
<Antonios> The guy lived by his own, and he said that 
    when he took him the dog wasn't trained... that's why they 
    had it on the news... somewhere in Austria I think 
<Jody> they have them for hearing, wheelchair bound, 
    epilepsy... all kinds of disabilities 
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<Antonios> welcome Leo! 
<Tarn19> hi Leo 
<^LEO> hello 
<^LEO> all 
<Mimi> hey leo :o) 
<^LEO> how is everyone? 
<Jody> just fine, thank you 
<Tarn19> excellent thankyou :) 
<Mimi> great thanks 
<Antonios> I am ok too! Thanx! 
<Antonios> How R U? 
<Jody> brb... I want ice cream 
<Tarn19> It is sooooooo hot here - 42 degrees celcius!!!!! 
<Mooooooo> wow! 
<Mimi> i want pumpkin pie 
<Antonios> Boo Hoo Hoooooo! 
* Antonios is crying out loud! 
<Tarn19> whats wrong? 
* Antonios wants the sun to be hot again 
<Tarn19> how cold is it in Greece? 
* Antonios is jealous of Australians! 
<Tarn19> hehe 
<Tarn19> come to Australia 
* Antonios slaps BRUCE with a snowball! 
<Antonios> 10 degrees C! 
<Antonios> And that is cold for us! 
*** LOG CLOSED: Wed Nov 26 19:07:27 1997