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  HelloKit (carlym@u.washington.edu)
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  Countrybo
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<Countrybo> does it hurt when you walk like that? 
<DopeHat> whats wrong 
<Mimi> my back, Keith :o( 
<Riverboat> 9:00 pm here now 
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<HelloKit> Guess what everyone! My first meeting in almost 
    a month!!! 
<Mimi> hello Catz :o) 
<DopeHat> you need to pop that thing out mimi 
<Mimi> welcome back Carly :o) 
<Mooooooo> Catz :o) 
<Mimi> LOL Keith 
<HelloKit> So are we all ready to start? 
<Catz> hello everyone 
<Countrybo> GO 
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<Mimi> 6 weeks, Keith 
<Mooooooo> yep 
<Mimi> hello Jeff :o) 
<HelloKit> You guys want me to use caps today or no? 
<Mooooooo> color 
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<HelloKit> Color, okie-dokie. 
<DopeHat> color 
<Riverboat> color 
<DopeHat> red 
<Pyro> it's a pitty my ircii client can't convert colors 
    :( 
<HelloKit> Do you often get looks and stares from other 
    people? 
<Countrybo> hell yes 
<DopeHat> yes 
<Riverboat> all the time 
<Catz> yes 
<Countrybo> i dont even notice anymore is that ok? 
<Mooooooo> about 50% 
<HelloKit> Sure, CB 
<Mimi> not if I'm not pregnant 
<Countrybo> hell i got wierd stares before i had a wheel 
    chair lol 
<Riverboat> lol 
<HelloKit> Do most looks come from kids or adults? 
<HelloKit> LOL 
<Riverboat> both 
<Countrybo> BOTH 
<DopeHat> both 
<Countrybo> atleast kids have enough guts to ask! 
<Mooooooo> most of mine come from kids 
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<Mooooooo> but adults make the dumbest comments 
<Mooooooo> Coral :o) 
* Countrybo doesnt mid explainin to kids who ask 
<DopeHat> or they run and hide 
<coral`> hi Mooooooo :) 
<HelloKit> That's true, CB 
<Riverboat> hi Coral 
<HelloKit> LOL 
<Mimi> hello coral :o) 
<coral`> hi Riverboat :) 
<coral`> hi Mimi :) 
<Mimi> brb 
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<Countrybo> Hurry back, Mimi We'll miss you 
<HelloKit> Mooooooo, do they really or does it just seem 
    that way because you expect them to know better? 
<Mooooooo> Nope, they really do 
<Mooooooo> The last comment was hiking up to Nevada Falls 
<Riverboat> they really do 
<DopeHat> try high school kids 
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<Mooooooo> I passed this old couple and one says to the 
    other 'hey, that lil crippled boy is climbing the mountain' 
<HelloKit> Does anyone have any witty remarks to use on 
    people who stare? 
<Mooooooo> slow down :o) 
<HelloKit> LOL How old were you? 
<HelloKit> Sorry, that was an accident. 
<Mooooooo> highschool kids are not as bad as adults 
<Mooooooo> the older they get, the worse they get 
<DopeHat> take a picture, it lasts longer 
<coral`> yeah 
<Pyroircii> Dan: that would be opposite here 
<Mooooooo> like CB said, at least little kids have the 
    cahonies to ask 
<Riverboat> good one! 
<Countrybo> hey did god really give you such a dirty look? 
<coral`> old people talk and treat me like a little kid 
<DopeHat> that right 
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<Mooooooo> do they call ya brave? 
<Mooooooo> hi judi :o) 
<Mimi> hello judi :o) 
<Riverboat> old people should know better 
<judi> hi 
<coral`> yeah they should 
<Countrybo> one person said you have a lot to deal with 
    lol like I have a choice??? 
<Mooooooo> but they're set in thier ways 
<coral`> some younger ppl talk down to me too 
<Riverboat> I live in a big apartment building 
<Riverboat> lots of old people there, all they do is stare 
    and 'goosip' 
<Riverboat> 'gossip' typo 
<HelloKit> I know what you mean coral... for the longest 
    time my younger sis acted like she was in charge of me... 
    as if I couldn't make my own decisions. 
<coral`> that's how i get treated 
<coral`> and store clerks talk sometimes like i'm a little 
    kid 
<judi> what's the question? 
<Riverboat> I had a ex that did that 
<coral`> it's really irritating 
<Mooooooo> then when ya get mad, they think you're rude 
<Riverboat> treat me like a kid 
<HelloKit> judi, the question is: 
<HelloKit> Does anyone have any witty remarks to use on 
    people who stare? 
* Countrybo loves to zip down the store aisles in my 
    amigo at top spead lol people hate that lol 
<Riverboat> picture time people 
<coral`> 'keep your eyes to yourself' 
<Mooooooo> mine is 'you got a prob *sshole?' 
<HelloKit> I have to tell you guys this story... some of 
    you may have already heard it. 
<Riverboat> good one 
<coral`> that's a good one Mooooooo 
<judi> People stare at my Rascal too 
<Countrybo> i like to just stare back and x my eyes lol 
<coral`> make a face at them 
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<Countrybo> actually lately i am just so darned happy to 
    be in the damn store who cares if they stare!! 
<HelloKit> My friend Jessi was in the grocery store one 
    day w/ her mom when she was about 2 yrs. old. This lady 
    starts staring at her, and she looks at the lady and 
    says, 'Hi, my name is Jessica Aaron. I have arthrogryposis 
    multiplex congenita, what's your problem?' The lady's jaw 
    hit the floor. 
<Riverboat> tell them 'Who you staring at, stupid' 
<Countrybo> lol 
<judi> People, especially clerks, talk to my husband instead 
    of me, like I can't alk if I'm riding. He always says, 
    She can talk. 
<Countrybo> why confroont them? 
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<Countrybo> just look at em and say yup you look pretty 
    normal to me lol 
<DopeHat> lol 
<judi> I loke that Countrybo 
<DopeHat> i hate that 
<Countrybo> hey you want people to just turn their backs 
    in stores and look the other way? 
<Mooooooo> I confront them to show them they are being 
    rude 
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<Countrybo> sounds like alot of yas are out there makin 
    enemies lol 
<Mooooooo> hey han :o) 
<Lao-tzu> hi everybody 
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<HelloKit> Has anyone ever come to you and asked a 
    question or made a remark regarding your disability that 
    you thought was stupid, strange, or even funny? 
<Lao-tzu> wooei big crowd tonight! 
<Riverboat> yes 
<Mooooooo> a) does it hurt 
<Countrybo> ya i get that alot 
<Mooooooo> b) Are you and your older sister twins? 
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<HelloKit> LOL 
<Countrybo> but now sometimes it does hurt :( 
<coral`> someone came up and rudely said 'what happened to 
    you' in a demanding way and i said 'nothing' 
<Mooooooo> c) what kind of accident were you in? 
<HelloKit> I read one on AOL: 'Perhaps if you soak your 
    legs in a nice hot bath, you'll walk.' 
<Countrybo> what happened to your legs 
<Mimi> I can't stand it when people who know I have 
    epilepsy use the term 'epileptic fit' to describe someone 
    who got really mad or lost it 
<Countrybo> that is sad 
<judi> There was an older clerk in a sewing section of 
    our local Walmart who always stared. Finally she asked my 
    husband, 'What's wrong with her' even though I had talked 
    to her several times. I avoid going in there now. 
<Mimi> even if they don't know I have epilepsy, for that 
    matter! :o) 
<Mooooooo> Well I told ya all about my car incedent 
<coral`> i didn't hear it Mooooooo 
<rowdie> me neither, moo 
<Mooooooo> the car deal wasnt very nice to me 
<Mooooooo> dealer 
<DopeHat> i've had people ask if i lift weights will i 
    get stronger 
<Mooooooo> wanted to do the business with the friend who 
    was with me 
<HelloKit> ROFL Keith 
<Countrybo> hey mimi i saw sopmethin neat on tv about 
    epileptic kids havin trained dogs that can sense a seizure 
    comin on and can warn the kid so they can lay down and 
    prevent gettin hurt! i though that was neat! 
<Mimi> wow, that is cool! 
<Mooooooo> I went across the street and bought my new car 
    from the other dealer and paid cash for it 
<Mimi> nice when you have fair warning :o) 
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<DopeHat> i had a teacher say i was lazy 
<Mimi> hello Ray1 :o) 
<coral`> what did you do say to the rude dealer Mooooooo 
<Mimi> sheesh 
<Countrybo> they said the animal can sense electrical or 
    chemical changes that occur just befor a siezure 
<rowdie> I saw that too, countrybo, it was interesting 
<Mimi> that's amazing, wow 
<Lao-tzu> say Mooooooo, will you adopt me and buy me car? 
<Mooooooo> i didnt have to say anything :o) 
<Mimi> I dadn't heard of that 
<Countrybo> i was amazed 
<DopeHat> i've seen that 
<Countrybo> i just saw it this week 
<Mooooooo> lol 
<judi> My trouble is if I answer that I have arthritis I 
    usually hear, oh everybody has arthritis. Like everyone has 
    debilitating arthritis. 
<Countrybo> oh man that sucks 
<coral`> there is a guy that lives behind me with a 
    seizure dog 
<Countrybo> that has to beverypainful 
<Mimi> uninformed 
<HelloKit> My mom gets that attitude too, judi. Ticks her 
    off. 
<Countrybo> cool coral 
<judi> Yes itis countrybo. 
<Countrybo> maybe you could get some info for mimi? 
<Countrybo> maybe you could get some info for mimi? 
    coral??? 
<Char2> i have had peole ask if i realy need a wheelchair 
<judi> I've even had people tell me to go buy some 
    ibuprofen! 
<Mimi> well, I havent had a grand mal in 7 years and I 
    don't plan to start up again soon :o) 
<coral`> i have that too judi and they always say they 
    never heard of arthritis putting someone in a w/c 
* Char2 has Rhuematoid Arthritis (RA) and is in a 
    wheelchair, 6 years 
<Countrybo> people ask me if i can walk at all 
<judi> Yea, I hear that too 
<Countrybo> Congrats mimi! 
<Mimi> thanks ;o) 
<HelloKit> Did anyone have a good comeback for a remark 
    they received? 
<Countrybo> i have a niece that has atleast 3 grandmalls a 
    week 
<rowdie> can 
<rowdie> opps 
<judi> that's terrible 
<Mimi> that's tough, CB 
<Countrybo> its tough but thats life eh? 
<judi> I need a good comeback 
<rowdie> can you guys see me? 
<Ray1> I have Moderate CP and I had a DMV clerk ask me 
    'what's the matter with your hand?' 
<Countrybo> yup rowdie 
<rowdie> thanks, countrybo 
<Char2> yes rowdie 
<judi> yes, rowdie 
<Countrybo> heheh 
<Riverboat> yes, rowdie 
<Lao-tzu> yes rowdie 
<rowdie> ok, thanks, ya'll 
<HelloKit> We met a kid on the bus who recovered from 
    spinal meningitis and has 1-2 seizures a week. 
<coral`> tell them it's none of their business 
* Countrybo thinks he just wanted attention lol j/k 
<Mimi> I've heard of kids having 75 per day 
<HelloKit> He had two during the trip, in fact. Thankfully 
    they were both during rest stops. 
<Countrybo> oh man when they screened her for surgery they 
    spent a weekend triggerin multiple siezuers in the hospital 
    :( 
<Mimi> awww, poor thing 
<Countrybo> and she didnt qualify :( 
<rowdie> that's tough, cb 
<HelloKit> Oh God what a pain... 
<Countrybo> everytime they mess with her medications it 
    messes her up 
<judi> My son had brain surgery when he was 16. He had a 
    cyst in the temporal lobe. Before the surgery he had 
    multiple seizures daily. Afterwards, not a one. 
<Mimi> it's hard for some people to find the right balance 
<Countrybo> sorry lol yall been thru this and worse i bet 
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<Mimi> heya Simon :o) 
<phoenyxx> sorry I am late 
<Riverboat> neurologists don't seem concerned at all 
<phoenyxx> :-) 
<HelloKit> Hey Simon. 
<phoenyxx> hey carly 
<Mimi> Simon, got a good comeback for a stupid comment? 
<Lao-tzu> hi Simon 
<judi> hi phoenyxx 
<phoenyxx> good comeback for a stupid comment? depends on 
    the stupid comment :-) 
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<phoenyxx> people ask me if I can walk after I tell them 
    I can't, I tell them, sure, just give me a ticket 
<phoenyxx> on the space shuttle :-) 
<Countrybo> ya they wanted another muscle biopsy on my boy 
    so we drove 4.5 hours one way just for the other doc to 
    say why? i dont think he needs one! geee why didnt they 
    just phone each other? 
<Mimi> lol 
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<Mimi> that'll work 
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<HelloKit> What are the most common questions/comments made 
    to people with disabilities? 
<phoenyxx> my favorite has always been, upon seeing my 
    chair, 'how did YOU get a chair like that?' 
<coral`> 'why are you in a w/c?' 
<Mimi> people always ask me if I am 'under control' *g* 
<phoenyxx> I say something really sarcastic like, 'I am 
    sorry, they said it was ok for me to get it.' 
<Char2> Whats wrong with you why the w/c 
<Countrybo> how about this one? the anethesiologist asked if 
    i was a lawyer when he was puttin wifey under for c-sect. 
    I said no but i can learn FAST if i have to! 
<judi> what's wrong with you 
<Mimi> I am always tempted to say, 'not at all!' and let 
    them sweat it 
<HelloKit> LOL... no! I'm completely out of control!!! 
    *grin* 
<HelloKit> LOL CB 
<Ray1> Or by the 'religious right' -- I can cure you! 
<Countrybo> i was nervouse as irt was what a dumb thing 
    for him to say 
<phoenyxx> when someone asks why I'm in the chair, and I 
    they seem a little nervous about it, I reply with 'Well, 
    the intelligence briefing didn't cover this planet's high 
    gravity' :-) 
<HelloKit> That would scare me, CB 
<Mooooooo> most comments i get are from the 'religious 
    left' 
<rowdie> lol phoenyxx 
<phoenyxx> that puts them at ease when they hear me joking 
    like that. 
<phoenyxx> :-) 
<Mooooooo> always wanting to help me and they cant take a 
    hint 
<phoenyxx> religious left? 
<Ray1> Cute, mooooo. 
<Char2> i got use that one , Phoenoyx 
<Countrybo> hey I believe God can cure us in his own time 
    and sometimes we serve a better purpose by reaching opthers 
    thru our disability 
<HelloKit> Do you find that a lot of people tend to bring 
    up religion when they meet someone with a disability? 
<Mooooooo> religious left, ammoral busibodies 
<judi> all the time 
<rowdie> my dad was in a wheelchair, when someone asked 
    him questions like that, he always stuck out his hand to 
    shake thiers and said 'glad you got to meet me' 
<phoenyxx> btw, delayed hellos to judi and Lao-tzu :-) 
<coral`> not a lot 
<phoenyxx> Carly, I've seen that happen sometimes. 
<Mimi> lol rowdie 
<phoenyxx> actually it's weird, I've actually gotten flak 
    for talking about my disability in philosophical terms 
    rather than simple clinical, technical terms. 
<judi> what do you mean 
<HelloKit> My friend Priscilla was on the sidewalk in her 
    w/c waiting for her ride... this guy walks past her, 
    stops, comes back to her, kneels by her chair and says, 
    'Can I talk to you about Jesus?' 
<Countrybo> Its a tough question we all ask our selves i 
    get ...Why me God? 
<Ray1> It's not prevalent, it just sticks in my mind. 
<Lao-tzu> Simon, it's OK, laggard you :-) 
<rowdie> For sure, CB 
<phoenyxx> judi: for some reason, some people like talking 
    about disability when I'm talking in straight technical 
    terms, but when I discuss any 'feeling' about it, there's 
    trouble. 
<Countrybo> you know theres alot of disabled people doin 
    God's work 
<phoenyxx> Carly: I get the feeling some people think 
    someone in a chair has become an atheist or something. 
<Countrybo> theres a lady missionary in malaysia handing out 
    bibles from a wheel chair 
<judi> what, disabled people have feelings? 
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<phoenyxx> I am not an atheist, I'm an irreverent Catholic 
    :-) 
<Countrybo> ya are disabled people realpeople? lol 
<phoenyxx> judi: I do anyway :-) 
* Mooooooo is a single 33 year old Politically Incorrect 
    Jesus Loving Christian American Capitalist Heterosexual 
    Pro-Life Pro-Choice Flag Waving Conservative Libertarian 
    Environmental Reactivist and card carrying member of the 
    NRA. I'm a darn nice guy. 
<Countrybo> i am a recovering Catholic lol 
<Mooooooo> thats me :o) 
<Lao-tzu> I've had a guy wanting to get me into a MLM 
    scheme for years now and the latest one he told me he 
    was a bishop and asked me if I wanted to be cured. So I 
    asked him how many in the chain before me :-) 
<HelloKit> phoenyxx: As if maybe atheism is what put them 
    in the chair... 
<Countrybo> coool mooo me too 
* Mimi is a practicing Catholic 
<Mooooooo> /:o) 
<judi> gosh, I thought we just sat around not hearing 
    things or getting our feelings hurt 
<HelloKit> Do people tend to automatically brand you as a 
    'good' person because you have a disability? 
<Mooooooo> yes 
<Riverboat> Yes 
<coral`> i think so 
<phoenyxx> Carly: yes! 
<Mooooooo> Im brave, smart, and have a certain wisdom 
<rowdie> good, but insignificant 
* Countrybo thinks God is not divided so i wont join a 
    division ie a particular church i just be a christian! 
<HelloKit> ROFL 
<Lao-tzu> not the people I run over with my w/c 
<DopeHat> yes 
<Ray1> Not necessarily. 
<HelloKit> I like that attitude, CB 
<judi> I agree with roediw 
<Countrybo> lol or run into with my amigo lol 
<HelloKit> That's me too... I have my own set of beliefs. 
<phoenyxx> someone once was terribly offended with a violent 
    segment on my access TV show, but what got me mad was 
    that she wasn't bothered by the segment 
<phoenyxx> but that someone in a wheelchair could think of 
    something so violent. 
<Countrybo> hek grioocery store aisles are like a freeway 
    to an amigo lol 
<phoenyxx> that got me mad. 
* HelloKit rolls her eyes. 
<phoenyxx> ...the skit was crude and smartass in nature, 
    and I tried explaining to her that I've had a weird sense 
    of humor long before I was in the chair. 
<judi> hard to reach top shelves though cb 
<Mimi> I volunteered at a center for the disabled and the 
    lady was really suspicious of me until I mentioned that I 
    had epilepsy, and then I was welcomed with open arms :o) 
<phoenyxx> and that wasn't impaired in the slightest :-) 
<Countrybo> ya it is lol funny i never had that trouble 
    when i could walk hehe 
* Countrybo is 6ft 3 
* phoenyxx is 5ft 4 
<Countrybo> you had to be disabled to fit in? 
<HelloKit> That's like my mom... she thinks that anyone who 
    volunteers for MDA must have a family member with MD. 
<judi> I think we get a little defensive Mimi. You can't 
    SEE epilepsy. 
<Mimi> I guess she was screening me, and having epilepsy 
    make me instantly 'ok' *g* 
<Countrybo> hey i am not bitter alot, of able bodied 
    people have gone out of their way to help us out! like 
    building a ramp! 
<Mimi> true, Judy, but I was volunteering, not joining the 
    club 
<phoenyxx> yes, and many able bodied will serve the Party 
    well in the future. :-) 
<Mimi> LOL 
<Countrybo> LOL 
<judi> I ran into that before my arthritis put me in the 
    riders seat 
<Countrybo> actually i think its cool i can out shop my 
    wife now lol 
<phoenyxx> Roosevelt had The New Deal, as President, I will 
    dispense The Raw Deal :-) 
<HelloKit> Well Mimi, sometimes people are unsure of how 
    you will treat the clients/patients... knowing you have a 
    disability yourself makes you a little less likely to 
    mistreat people, y'know? 
<HelloKit> At least in their minds. 
<Mimi> that's very true, Carly 
<Countrybo> true 
<rowdie> good point, kit 
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<phoenyxx> hey, does anyone get an attitude from some 
    people that you were a shallow person or a jerk before 
    you were disabled? 
<Mimi> I got 20 questions on how much experience I had 
    'dealing with the disabled' 
<phoenyxx> then you became 
<phoenyxx> nice 
<phoenyxx> ? 
<judi> Countrybo, its hard to reach those shelves when 
    you're 5'3' tall though 
<Countrybo> i bet judi! 
<phoenyxx> I am taller than someone here :-) 
<HelloKit> Hey, my graphics teacher in HS was only 4'11' 
<Countrybo> but ya know what judi when i could walk i was 
    always happy to help out shorter people that way! now they 
    help me lol being as them short people can reach higher 
    than me now lol 
<Mimi> I had a riding teacher who was 4'9' 
<HelloKit> Since many people mean well when they say 
    something funny, do you think anyone would be offended to 
    know that we look at their remarks humorously? 
<Mooooooo> so was my spanish teacher 
<judi> We just learned my grandson has a growth disorder 
    and will probably never reach 5'. 
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<Mooooooo> i cant help it if i roll over laughing 
<Mimi> some would, yeah...others might feel better knowing 
    that 
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<Countrybo> well if you cant laff at yourself and your 
    predicaments WHO CAN???? 
<phoenyxx> People I've met are put at ease if they know I 
    can laugh about things. 
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<Catz> good night I have to get ready for school tomorrow 
<phoenyxx> One guy asked me what street gang I was in, as 
    a bad joke, and I told him he had 5 seconds to run. 
<rowdie> nite catz 
<Lao-tzu> I finally got my license to 'solo' with my KFOs 
    in the apartment. Oooh, what a rush!, to be able to look 
    the top shelf in the kitchen covert (sp?) eye to eye 
    again. Then to take the bag of raisins and decide whether 
    to drop them in the sinc or be adventurous and slowly 
    place it on the counter. 
<Mimi> bye Catz! 
<Countrybo> laughter is a universal langyage even for people 
    p 
<phoenyxx> I knew he was kidding, and he knew I was 
    kidding. 
<Countrybo> of the same launguage lol 
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<Lao-tzu> nite Catz 
<HelloKit> Of all the remarks we have received from people, 
    what is the funniest one you heard tonight, or that hasn't 
    been mentioned? 
<Mooooooo> hmmmm 
<Raven_> am /I late Mimi? 
<Raven_> he 
<Countrybo> tough one 
<Mimi> kinda, Raven :o) 
<judi> 'Are you ok?' 
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<Raven_> totally forgoy 
<Raven_> forgot even 
<Lao-tzu> a mixed bag I think, can't make up my mind 
<coral`> once i was getting off a bus liket wearing 
    sunglasses and a kid asked my friend if i was blind 
<Mimi> I liked the one about soaking your legs in warm 
    water ;o) 
<HelloKit> What do you think belongs at the top of the 
    top ten list? 
<Raven_> in a power-chair? 
<HelloKit> LOL coral 
<coral`> yeah 
<Countrybo> lol 
<coral`> bus lift i meant to say 
<Raven_> go figue <G> 
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<Mimi> hello Char :o) 
<Countrybo> welli sometimes drive like a blind man? lol 
<HelloKit> heh 
<Char2> hi mimi 
<judi> Wish I could drive 
<Ray1> When I was learning to walk on canes at age 16... 
    I had a little kid stare at me and say to his friend, 
    'He must be broken.' 
<phoenyxx> One time I was wearing all black in my black 
    (with silver trim) chair wearing black gloves and sunglasses 
    and someone joked 'It's Dr. Strangelove'. 
<phoenyxx> rather funny actually :-) 
<rowdie> lol phoenyxx 
<Raven_> I did today, I'm hyped up on mini-thins 
<Mooooooo> lol 
<phoenyxx> I told them I was off to hassle UFO witnesses. 
<rowdie> kids are the best 
<phoenyxx> :-) 
<Countrybo> hehe i chipped out a hunk of the front deck 
    on my cart shovelin snow. People see that and they get 
    out of my way fast lol 
* Mimi chuckles 
<judi> I lovve your attitude phoenyxx 
<Countrybo> lol 
<phoenyxx> judi: thank you :-) 
<Countrybo> i vote that as no.1 dr strangelove lol 
<rowdie> A kid asks me how come I walk the way I walk. 
    I said I had polio. He sais COOL! 
<Countrybo> lol 
<HelloKit> LOL! 
<Mimi> lol 
<Countrybo> ya real cool lol 
<Raven_> cool? 
<HelloKit> BRB 
<Countrybo> Hurry back, HelloKit We'll miss you 
<Lao-tzu> there's a method to this madness yet! 
<Countrybo> one guy says he should get a cart he's tired 
    of walkin I said i'll trade anyday! 
<Mimi> I've done that...someone said 'Ive got CP but it 
    doesn't have me' and I said 'that's cool' meaning it was 
    cool that it didn't have them, but I felt silly anyway 
<coral`> a lot of ppl that see me in my power chair say 
    'i need one of those' 
<phoenyxx> ack! see you all later! it's 9pm here! 
<Mimi> bye Simon! :o) 
* phoenyxx is off to watch the season premeire of Law and 
    Order 
<phoenyxx> :-) 
<rowdie> nite phoenyxx, take care 
<Countrybo> night dr 
<Lao-tzu> bi Simon 
<Countrybo> lol 
<judi> me too coral, like we just use them for fun 
<coral`> yeah 
<Mooooooo> bye simon 
<phoenyxx> glad I made you all laugh here, judi, glad you 
    found my jokes funny :-) 
<Countrybo> ya we are to lazy to walk 
<phoenyxx> bye! :-) 
<judi> bye ohoenyxx 
<Mimi> at least someone did, Simon ;o) 
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<Mimi> j/k 
<HelloKit> back 
<Countrybo> Welcome Back HelloKit We missed you 
<Mimi> wb Carly :o) 
<HelloKit> I had to go tell Chris the 'cool' one... hehe 
<Countrybo> well folks its bed time 
<coral`> g'night CB 
<Raven_> night 
<rowdie> nite CB 
<judi> night cb 
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<Mimi> bye CB! :o) 
<HelloKit> Can anyone think of any topics for future top 
    ten lists? 
<Mooooooo> not off the top of my head 
<Mooooooo> but i'll think about it 
<Mimi> whoops, me neither 
<judi> things we've had to give up 
<Char2> judi, what type of arthiritis do you have? 
<rowdie> brb 
<coral`> benefits of being disabled? 
<Raven_> bye 
<judi> rheumatoid 
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<HelloKit> I thought about that one, coralk. 
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<Lao-tzu> how about things you want to do? 
<HelloKit> coral 
<HelloKit> sorry 
<coral`> s'ok 
<Char2> judi, how long have you had RA 
<Ray1> I gotta go soon too, but I wanted to let you know 
    I'm the guy you used to know as Capwriter. 
<Mooooooo> oh!!!! 
<Mooooooo> cool Cap 
<Mooooooo> /:o) 
<Mimi> lol 
<judi> yea, that's better Lao. 12 years, degenerative disk 
    disease 16 years 
<Char2> judi, i have RA 
<coral`> the positive respnses we get from people 
<judi> hit new highs this summer. sed rate 130 
<coral`> i have RA too 
<Ray1> See you, mooooo, mimi. I'll drop by during the 
    week. take it easy. Bye, all. 
<Mimi> bye Ray! :o) 
<Mooooooo> see ya ray 
<Lao-tzu> bi RAy 
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<Char2> i have had RA over 25 yrs 
<coral`> bye Ray 
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