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  Mooooooo (dse@pacific.net)
  HelloKit (carlym@u.washington.edu)
  DopeHat (khodgdon@ionet.net)
  mon_ange
  AmyWonder (Enepon@mail.earthlink.net)
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  duckie
  wcg
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<HelloKit> logging is on 
<AmyWonder> I didn't understand 
<Mooooooo> hey al2!!! 
<al2> ahoy mooooooooooooooooooooooo 
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* Mooooooo still wants to meet al2's nurse :o) 
<HelloKit> Hehe... just kidding. 
<al2> ah... moooo remembers that one! 
<Mooooooo> howdy wcg 
<Mooooooo> /:o) 
<Mimi_> brb 
<Silvester> Test it Mooooooo.... 
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<mon_ange> woa 
<al2> haven't seen her for 17 years, mooooo 
<HelloKit> TESTING... 
<Mooooooo> dang 
<HelloKit> hehe 
<Silvester> lol Carly... 
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<Mooooooo> howdy Alien 
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* DopeHat is listening 
* Silvester sleeps... 
<HelloKit> ARE WE READY? 
<al2> yeah 
<AmyWonder> yes 
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    fish'n'chips. 
<AlienDog> Howdee Mooooooo 
<Mooooooo> YES 
<mon_ange> my lag is SOOO bad 
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<DopeHat> shoot 
<mon_ange> maybe this is better 
<Silvester> yeah... 
<Mooooooo> much 
<HelloKit> Hey Mooooooo... gimme that mic back! 
<AlienDog> Howdee HelloKit! 
<Mooooooo> Hiya Chill 
* Mooooooo holds his breath until HelloKit speaks 
<chill> howdy hi 
<mon_ange> hehe moo :D 
<al2> speech!.... speech! 
* Mooooooo is turning blue 
<Mimi_> I'm back :o) 
<Mooooooo> wb Mimi 
* DopeHat kicks mooooooo in the gut 
<HelloKit> FOR THOSE WHO DON'T ALREADY KNOW, TONIGHT'S TOPIC 
    IS ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OUR RELATIONSHIPS AND THOSE 
    OF PEOPLE WITHOUT DISABILITIES. 
<mon_ange> yeah wb 
<HelloKit> FIRST QUESTION IS... 
<DopeHat> ok 
<Silvester> Ah...that is meant with AB 
<HelloKit> HOW MANY OF US GET HELP OR CARE FROM OUR 
    PARTNERS? 
* HelloKit raises her hand... 
<DopeHat> i do 
<Mimi_> no me 
<Mimi_> not me 
<chill> not here 
<mon_ange> not me either 
<DopeHat> not 
<AmyWonder> I do 
<Mooooooo> I don't have a partner any more, but she did 
    help me get an ulcer 
<al2> of those who have partners 
<HelloKit> LOL 
<DopeHat> heh 
<Mimi_> *LOL* Daniel 
<mon_ange> lol 
<duckie> I get very little help 
<HelloKit> ANYONE? 
<DopeHat> i have no partner 
<AmyWonder> i do 
<al2> i don't 
<Silvester> I do.. 
<HelloKit> AMYWONDER, DO YOU THINK THAT AFFECTS YOUR 
    RELATIONSHIP? 
<duckie> I have a partner he is AB and I get very little 
    help 
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<al2> duckie... do you need much help? 
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<mon_ange> my boyfriend's AB and i get no help at 
    all......but most of the time i dont ask for it 
<HelloKit> AND DUCKIE, WHAT KIND OF HELP DO YOU GET? 
<AmyWonder> yes Sometime he treats me like hiss child 
<al2> duckie? 
* HelloKit gets a lot of help from her sweetie. 
<Mimi_> why don't you ask, angel? you don't need it, or 
    don't want it? 
<al2> are you there? 
<HelloKit> AMY - DOES HE TEND TO HELP TOO MUCH? 
<DopeHat> hellokit is lucky 
<mon_ange> i want him to do it because he WANTS to not 
    out of pity 
<mon_ange> so far, he hasnt showed that he wants to 
<AmyWonder> not really 
<duckie> I need very little help...I try to be as 
    independt as possible 
<Silvester> This is the right way... 
<duckie> I rather not ask unless I really need it 
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<AmyWonder> he llectures me 
<Mooooooo> heya Jeff 
<Mimi_> angel, maybe he's shy :o) 
<HelloKit> ABOUT WHAT, AMY? 
<mon_ange> i try to be independent but sometimes its hard 
    to be 
<Pyro> heyt dan :) 
<Mimi_> Hey Jeff :o) 
<DopeHat> hi jeff 
<Pyro> hi mimi, keith :) 
<AmyWonder> when we talk about religion 
<al2> yeah, some people are reluctant to offer, probably 
    only from uncertainty 
<duckie> sometimes I get tired of being independent and 
    just would like to be helped but 
<duckie> I don't want someone to help me out of pity 
<chill> who would? 
<mon_ange> i hate it with a passion when people pity me 
<HelloKit> My boyfriend told me he was afraid I would be 
    offended if he offered to help. 
<Mimi_> al2 - I can attest to that, as an AB sometimes 
    I'm unsure :o/ (I have disabled family members) 
<mon_ange> if someone's help offends me, i'd be the first 
    one to tell them 
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<DopeHat> it never hurts to ask 
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<Mimi_> that's good, angel 
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<Mimi_> Keith, once you get reamed for offering unwanted 
    help, you're reluctant to offer again :o) 
<Mooooooo> take care Sven 
<HelloKit> Sometimes I get mad when someone offers me help, 
    but I do overreact... 
<DopeHat> i'm sorry that happened 
<HelloKit> I always regret it. 
<AmyWonder> He ddoes not try to do everything for me 
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<Mimi_> brb - doorbell 
<al2> getting reamed for asking is the other person's 
    hangup, not necassarily anybody else's 
<al2> buut 
<Mooooooo> I only get upset when someone insists on helping 
    after I ask them not to 
<al2> oops 
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* HelloKit agrees with Mooooooo. 
<Mooooooo> howdy John 
<mon_ange> its like they cant take no for an answer 
<DopeHat> yeah me too 
<Mooooooo> moral busibodies 
<Mimi_> I'm back 
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<CincyKid> Howdy Dan, How do everyone! 
<Mooooooo> I do well 
<Mooooooo> /:o) 
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<HelloKit> Pretty good, John. 
<mon_ange> i hate it when people talk to me like i'm some 
    little kid with a learning disability and cant understand 
    anything 
<DopeHat> sometimes i hate to ask for help 
<Mooooooo> Jody :o) 
<Mimi_> It's OK, Keith, you just have to get to know the 
    person better, usually, and it works itself out 
* HelloKit nods to mon_ange. 
<jdejan> Hi Moooooo! 
<AlienDog> Floks with Learning dsiabilities CAN undrestand 
    thnigs though!!! 
<duckie> I'm learning to accept help 
<jdejan> I went to another server and there was no one in 
    the chat room 
<Mimi_> Hey Jody!! :o) 
<jdejan> hi mimi 
<Mooooooo> Jody, did you read your mail? 
<jdejan> hi DH 
<AmyWonder> Maybe it's because he is older than me 
<jdejan> what mail? 
<DopeHat> hi 
<HelloKit> DO YOU THINK A DISABILITY CAN BRING A COUPLE 
    CLOSER? 
<Mooooooo> are you on the mailing list? 
<jdejan> nope 
<DopeHat> maybe 
<Mooooooo> It either brings you closer or tears you apart 
<mon_ange> i'm not saying that alien but i am saying that 
    they shouldnt talk to me like that ya know what i mean? 
<al2> yes, it can... depends on the individuals 
<duckie> yes..if you let it 
<mon_ange> just cuz i cant walk doesnt mean i cant think 
    for myself 
<DopeHat> i agree with moo 
<HelloKit> I feel mine has brought Chris and me closer. 
<AmyWonder> definatly 
<Mimi_> My husband was a little afraid at first when I 
    told him I had epilepsy 
<jdejan> Dan, how do I get on the mailing list? 
<AlienDog> Jsut cuase I can't wlak AND have severe learning 
    dsiabllities dsoent; mean I cna;'t thnik either. 
<Mooooooo> http://members.tripod.com/~disabled 
<Mooooooo> fill out the mailing list form 
<jdejan> thanks 
<HelloKit> He feeds me my meals, and he thinks it's 
    romantic. :o) 
<al2> I can relate to both sides, I was AB (and 
    misunderstanding of disabilities) until 28 yrs old 
* AlienDog thinks tish palce needs a betttre undrestnadnig 
    of other;s dsiablities! 
<HelloKit> AlienDog, I understand what mon_ange is saying... 
    perhaps 'learning disability' wasn't the greatest choice of 
    words. 
<mon_ange> no it wasnt 
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<mon_ange> didnt mean to offend him if i did 
<Mimi_> It's OK, angel 
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<HelloKit> Hi Spoted_1 
<Mimi_> Hey Spoted_1 :o) 
<Mooooooo> hello spoted 
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<mon_ange> hi spoted 
<Mimi_> welcome dwellers :o) 
<Mooooooo> hi dwellers 
<mon_ange> hey dwellers 
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<al2> ahoy dwellers 
<DopeHat> welcome spoted_1 
<Mooooooo> Next question? 
<HelloKit> LOL 
<HelloKit> My mind is blank... 
<Mooooooo> doh! 
<al2> what's the capitol of Libya? 
<mon_ange> L 
<Mooooooo> Washington DC 
<HelloKit> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR POINTS? 
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<Mooooooo> Hi SweetHP 
* al2 thinks 
<DopeHat> i don't like to date because i need help 
<SweetHP> Hi! 
<SweetHP> Sorry I'm late. 
<Mooooooo> np :o) 
<al2> I'm too afraid to date 
<AmyWonder> Mim: did he act differently when he fouund out? 
<Mimi_> Keith, what's wrong with a little help? (sorry 
    about the total TAB question...) 
<Mimi_> well, he was a little worried, but never said 
    anything...I never noticed it at the time, it was only 
    recently that he told me 
<DopeHat> i feel uncomfortable 
<HelloKit> I did too, DopeHat... you get over it. 
<Mooooooo> who came up with TAB? 
<mon_ange> my boyfriend was a little intimidated by me but 
    once we got together and started dating and stuff, he 
    chilled out 
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<Mimi_> at the time, though, Amy, I was pretty much in 
    severe denial and didn't really want to talk about it, I 
    certainly wasn't open about it, which of course made him 
    feel uncomfortable 
<HelloKit> Good question, Mooooooo... I have no idea but I 
    like it. :o) 
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<Mooooooo> I dont :o( 
<Mimi_> I kind of feel like you're not giving other people 
    a chance, Keith, if you refuse their companionship because 
    you don't want their help 
<al2> if I hit the 'tab' key, will I be able to walk? 
<jdejan> what is TAB 
<Mimi_> TAB - temporarily able bodied 
<chill> giggle 
<Mooooooo> It sounds like wishing harm on someone 
<Mimi_> I'm TAB until my next seizure :o) 
<AmyWonder> lol al2 
<SweetHP> If you think about it...most everyone is tab. 
<jdejan> oh, I guess that applies to me too 
<DopeHat> well i wouldn't go on a dinner date 
<jdejan> not the seizure part 
<Mimi_> that's too bad Keith...I think you should try 
<mon_ange> ya never know unless ya try 
<Mooooooo> Im not dating until I move 
<CincyKid> Where is your favorite place to go for a first 
    date or meeting? Anybody? 
<jdejan> why not? and move to where? 
<Mooooooo> Dinner and a movie 
<mon_ange> dinner and a movie 
<DopeHat> i don't know of any women would like to help on 
    a date 
<Mimi_> you have to give ABs a chance, too...some of them 
    are good people worth knowing *g* 
<Mooooooo> then a late night walk 
<mon_ange> thats where i went for my first date =) 
<AmyWonder> dinner 
<HelloKit> I don't think it is, Mooooooo... it's more of a 
    reminder that no one is 'perfect' forever... that they 
    really aren't that much different from us. 
<jdejan> hey moooo, why not (dating) and move where? 
<Mimi_> the beach with a baguette, a double creme brie, 
    some grapes and a bottle of red wine 
<al2> mimi... yup, but hard to 'see' that quality 
* Mooooooo is moving to Dallas 
<jdejan> HOT!! I have a friend down there 
<AmyWonder> when, moo/ 
<Mooooooo> thats not a date, thats a seduction 
<Mooooooo> very soon Amy 
<jdejan> Moooooo, behave yourself 
<DopeHat> people go on dates to have fun 
<al2> anybody here live in aridzona? 
<Mimi_> I know, but I have experienced rejection probably 
    on those grounds...kind of sucked 
<jdejan> mimi.... make that white wine and maybe you've got 
    something 
<Mimi_> Jody - :oD 
<Mimi_> that was my best first date 
<al2> I suggest cabernet sauvignon 
<jdejan> I like to go somewhere off-beat 
<Mimi_> twice, actually 
<Mimi_> I suggest a Georges DuBeouf Beaujolais Villages 
<DopeHat> i think i am very self concious 
* al2 is self conscious, too 
<jdejan> you shouldn't be DH. you come across as a very 
    nice person... 
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<al2> that's one of the blessings of the internet 
<Mooooooo> hey J! 
<DopeHat> women don't like nice guys 
<Mimi_> hey jlubin :o) 
<HelloKit> I agree, al2. 
<mon_ange> i think we're all self conscious at one point 
    but you gotta think...hey i'm just as good as everyone 
    else here. 
<Mimi_> that's not true, Keith 
<jlubin> hello 
<HelloKit> If you guys met me in person, you wouldn't 
    believe it was the same person. 
<Mooooooo> bery true Angel 
<SweetHP> Since when?! Nice guys are hard to find! 
<al2> dope... then every woman would like me 
<Mimi_> same here, Carly 
<dWeLlErS> This is for all the newnett users that are 
    corently fed up with the lag here if you are one of them 
    then you have a choice just type babylon.beyondirc.net and 
    then join #eden or #services it is lag free and great 
    ircops to!!!!!!!!!!! 
<Spoted_1> This is for all the newnett users that are 
    corently fed up with the lag here if you are one of them 
    then you have a choice just type babylon.beyondirc.net and 
    then join #eden or #services it is lag free and great 
    ircops to!!!!!!!!!!! 
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<jdejan> hey, DH, yes they do..... once they have smartened 
    up a bit 
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<mon_ange> got that right sweet, they are hard to find... 
<Mimi_> I married a nice guy, Keith :o) 
<DopeHat> i'm actually a very shy person 
<Mimi_> I had to leave the country, Angel *g* 
<mon_ange> i'm goin' out with a nice guy 
<al2> yeah... if you met me you'd be surprised, too 
<mon_ange> hehehe 
<jdejan> mimi - ;) 
<Mimi_> Come to 
<Mimi_> oops 
<SweetHP> Congrats mimi! 
<Mimi_> thanks SweetHP :o) 
<jdejan> I'm not leaving the country, but the next one (I 
    hope) is from outside the USA 
<Mimi_> May I suggest Canada to anyone? 
<DopeHat> no 
<al2> I'm stayin' right here 
* HelloKit had to go to the other end of the country to 
    find her man. 
<mon_ange> i got a good ol' american guy :D 
<Mimi_> OK, may I suggest Keith to anyone? *g* 
<al2> I lived in Montreal for a while 
<DopeHat> i can't find any women around my age 
<jdejan> Actually, to meet people you have to get out and 
    do things...... you won't meet them sitting at home 
<AmyWonder> i had to go outta state 
<HelloKit> How old are you, Keith? 
* Mooooooo had to crawl under a rock to find his last 
    girlfriend 
<jdejan> LOL 
<HelloKit> Hey! I met mine sitting at home! 
<DopeHat> 23 
<HelloKit> In front of the computer, to be exact... 
<CincyKid> roflmbo 
<Mimi_> dont be bitter, Danile 
<jdejan> how? what is your secret? 
<mon_ange> same here kit :D 
<jdejan> DH, you're still young.... you have plenty of time 
    to meet that special someone 
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<DopeHat> how carly 
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<Fuzzie1> Hi all 
<Mimi_> hey Fuzzie, Hombre :o) 
<jdejan> I've made a couple of very good friends through 
    the computer, but no love 
<SweetHP> Hi fuzzie1! 
<AmyWonder> over the net jody 
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<Hombre> hello everyone? 
<Mooooooo> heya fuzzy 
<Fuzzie1> So how's the meeting going? 
<Mimi_> Hey Han!! 
<Mooooooo> Hombre and Han 
<al2> well... this woman that runs #erotica lives 9 miles 
    from me 
<al2> but she scares me 
<Mimi_> I've been attracted to people I've met through the 
    internet 
<Hombre> same here 
<jdejan> same here..... 
<mon_ange> yeah same here but nothing more 
<Mimi_> nope, nothing more 
* Lao-tzu greets everybody. My wife, Rosie, is back home 
    here with me so be on your best behaviour 
<Mooooooo> I met 'it* on IRC 
<Mimi_> You wonder how you can be attracted to someone 
    you're never met 
<Hombre> no limits 
* HelloKit pats Mooooooo on the melon. 
<SweetHP> Hi Lao-tzu! 
<jdejan> Moooo, is 'it' your last girlfriend? 
<Mooooooo> yeah 
<Hombre> your sences 
<HelloKit> I should ship you my sister, Mooooooo... 
<jdejan> guess it didn't turn out well 
<AmyWonder> it is kinnda eaasier 
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<DopeHat> you never know whats on the other end 
<Gilbert> I found you! 
<Mooooooo> Hey Gil! 
<Gilbert> Oh, relief! 
<Lao-tzu> hi Gil 
<jdejan> that's true DH.... 
<AmyWonder> to email date 
<SweetHP> Well, Mimi, you get to know the person and 
    you're not judging by their looks alone. 
<Mimi_> Hey Gilbert :o_ 
<mon_ange> well all i must go, i'll see ya'll tomorrow or 
    next week =oD 
<Mimi_> oops, :o) 
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<Hombre> bye every one 
<jdejan> I did get together with one of my friends from 
    the net 
<richardh> hi 
<Mooooooo> see ya himbre 
<AmyWonder> att fiirst 
<Mimi_> that's what makes it so compelling, SweetHP 
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* HelloKit will be right back, gotta find the sand... 
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<Mimi_> bye angel! 
<mon_ange> b'bye all 
<richardh> what time is it EST when it it's 6 pacific 
<Mooooooo> bye Angel! 
<jdejan> bye 
<DopeHat> bye angel 
<Mimi_> *hugs* angel 
<Mooooooo> 9:00 
<jdejan> 9pm 
<mon_ange> c yas tomorrow 
<AmyWonder> 9 
<DopeHat> 9 
<SweetHP> Yes Mimi...I agree! 
<richardh> any girls here 18-25 
<al2> rich.... 9 
<richardh> thanks 
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<Mimi_> missed me by two years, richard 
<richardh> how old mimi 
<al2> oops 
<Mimi_> 27 
<Lao-tzu> hey I know I'm late, but please reassure me 
<richardh> damn 
<SweetHP> I've found that people in other countries are 
    less 'hung-up' about my disablity. 
<Gilbert> Hi, meemer I'm 30 
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<jdejan> I'm 29 + 2 years experience.... sorry 
<richardh> damn 
<Gilbert> Sweet, I've found the same thing 
<Mooooooo> howdy gimp! 
<richardh> it's hard to find love when youre autistic 
<Mimi_> hey gimp1 :o) 
<al2> yes, other countrypeople don't seem to be quite as 
    vain 
<gimp1> hi..im new here 
<richardh> hi gimp 
<Mimi_> you are welcome, gimp 
<DopeHat> if there any women in here 18-25 they are mine 
<al2> ahoy gimp 
<jdejan> hi gimp.... just jump in. there is always a great 
    crowd here 
<Lao-tzu> hullo gimp_one 
<DopeHat> hi gimp 
<CincyKid> I think you have a disabled and dateless night 
    on here. what do you think? 
<gimp1> i have Cerebral Palsy 
<jdejan> DH lays claim to all the young women...... 
<jlubin> I don't get out much to meet people 
<SweetHP> I've made some great friends in other countries 
    and we've even traded pictures through email & irc. 
<CincyKid> should have 
<richardh> Dpe you take the west I take the east coast 
<al2> cincy.... you hit the nail on the head 
<richardh> I have autism 
<jdejan> Cincy - definitely! 
<Mimi_> how about married and dateless anyway? *g* 
<DopeHat> thats no good i'm in the middle 
<jlubin> last time I went outside was to see comet 
    Hale-Bopp 
* Mimi_ votes for Keith :o) 
<jdejan> where are you DH? 
<Gilbert> Doh! Mim 
<richardh> I dont get out much either 
<DopeHat> Oklahoma 
<Mimi_> as a disinterested party, I say DopeHat gets the 
    girls :o) 
<Lao-tzu> Mimi watch your mouth....<g> 
<jdejan> near OSU? 
<al2> last time i went outside was to see if the peaches 
    are ripe 
<gimp1> what is everyone's disability? 
<Mimi_> hahaha 
<Mimi_> sorry 
<Mimi_> gimp, I have epilepsy 
* Mooooooo has Arthrogryposis 
<DopeHat> no Tulsa 
<SweetHP> Well, gotta go, work awaits! Great chatting with 
    you all again, catch you next week. 
<jdejan> gimp - rheumatoid arthritis and five knee surgeries 
<jdejan> Moooo..... what is that? 
<al2> gimp... quadriplegic from spinal cord injury 
* Lao-tzu is a paraplegic 
<Mimi_> bye SweetHP! :o) 
<Mooooooo> see ya Sweet 
<Mimi_> take care 
<Fuzzie1> I have arthritis 
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<Mooooooo> It's a muscle/tendon defent 
<Mooooooo> defect 
<Lao-tzu> bye sweet 
<AmyWonder> gimp; c.p. 
<CincyKid> Daughter has AMC 
<DopeHat> damn spam /msg 
* jlubin is c2 vent dependent quadriplegic due to acute 
    transverse myelitis 
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* HelloKit paws at the sand to cover up her business... 
    'There!' 
<jdejan> I got that too, DH 
<Mimi_> I hate that, Keith :oPPPPPP 
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<HelloKit> Me too... 
<richardh> what's that Klubin 
<richardh> Jlubin 
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<jlubin> a swelling of the spinal cord 
<Fuzzie1> But it's only 9.9 cents per minute :) 
<richardh> oh 
<Lao-tzu> I guess all you west coast guys want to go see 
    the sunset? 
<al2> jlubin.... complete paralysis below c2? 
<jdejan> the sun was out today? 
<jlubin> yes, from the neck down 
<Lao-tzu> I can't see from here 
<Mimi_> I'm really far north, Han, so I'm still seeing the 
    sunset 
<jdejan> can't see it in the east. nothing but rain.. 
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<Fuzzie1> Sun is setting here 
<Mooooooo> howdy sinful 
<Mimi_> hey sinful 
<al2> jlubin... i can relate... i'm complete below c5 
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<DopeHat> i can't see 
<Mimi_> guess we're too clean a crowd 
<jdejan> guess we weren't what sinful was looking for ;) 
<jlubin> complete paralysis but I have feeling 
<Lao-tzu> so Mimi are you in Victoria? 
<al2> i do have some sensation below c5 
<gimp1> amy don't you wish to chat? I sent you a private 
    message 
<jlubin> I just can't feel my right arm 
<Mimi_> nope, Han, I'm in the far north of Quebec 
<jdejan> Query: If the disability isn't obvious.... how do 
    you bring it up to a romantic prospect? 
<Gilbert> That's a good one, JDE 
<Mooooooo> like what, Jody? 
<al2> yes 
<jdejan> please.... call me Jody 
<Mimi_> like epilepsy, perhaps? 
<AmyWonder> i sent a pavirate mess 
<Mimi_> when they ask you what your medication is for, 
    then you tell them 
<jdejan> well, Dan, like me.... I don't limp but am in a 
    lot of pain and require mucho surgery 
<al2> that's one thing about me... my disability is quite 
    obvious upon sight 
<Mooooooo> I dont know Jody 
<jdejan> I know what you mean, mimi. I have an arsenal of 
    drugs 
<richardh> mine aint visible but people know im 'speical' 
    ick from the first moment they see me 
<jdejan> thanks for dinner, may I kiss you and by the 
    way..... I'm a gimp. 
<al2> rich... why is that? 
<Mimi_> that's the rule I always went by, Jody 
<Mooooooo> LOL 
<Gilbert> hee hee, Jode 
<jdejan> I'll have to try it... 
<Mooooooo> Jody, I think i'll print up some business cards 
    for us all 
<Mooooooo> we can be card carrying gimps 
<jdejan> and what would you say? 
<Mimi_> Daniel made me 'Honorary Gimp' *g* 
<Fuzzie1> Great, can we have secret handshakes and 
    passswords too? 
*** LOG CLOSED: Wed Jul  9 19:03:40 1997