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  lisiado
  ChanServ
  In
  Mooooooo (dse@pacific.net)
  phoenyxx
  rosie_
  Mimi (mimi@lino.com)
  vetrob
  HelloKit (disabled@softhome.net)
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<phoenyxx> hey Mimi, do Canadians rip on the Prime Minister 
    the way we rip Clinton? 
<Mimi> oooooh yeah 
<HelloKit> logging is on 
<Mimi> wow, look at the croud ;o) 
<Mimi> crowd, even 
<In> for sure phoenyxx 
<Mimi> Today's meeting is on 'Cooking with a Disability' 
<HelloKit> Give it a couple minutes... people usually flood 
    in the first 5-10 minutes. 
<phoenyxx> Mimi: I've heard Canadian comedy shows on RCI 
    (shortwave) and the political humor seems more irreverant 
    than American political humor. 
<Mimi> ik 
<Mooooooo> where the heck did they call go? 
<Mimi> call go? 
<Mooooooo> all go 
* HelloKit . o O ( I'm surprised Simon is actually 
    early... ;o) ) 
<Mimi> yeah, the PM of Quebec is an amputee and the 
    comedy shows make fun of his limp 
<phoenyxx> yes Carly, and Charon is now out of work! 
<vetrob> how do I join the meeting ? 
<Mimi> LOL 
<Mimi> if you're here, you've joined, vetrob 
<phoenyxx> Mimi: geez, do the comedy show producers realize 
    the trouble they'll be in come 2010? 
<vetrob> thanks 
<Mimi> LOL 
<phoenyxx> having to answer to NOP/Canada. 
<In> vetrob, where r u from? 
<Mimi> yes, but they're in Cadada :o) Safely away from the 
    ADA 
<vetrob> 20 miles east of Showlow Arizona 
<phoenyxx> true, but American infiltrators hehehehe...... 
<HelloKit> Cadada? lol ;o) 
<Mimi> actually, the PM of Canada had a stroke, and the 
    comedy shows make fun of that too 
<In> Nice there I bet, vet 
<phoenyxx> Showlow...what part of Arizona is that? 
<phoenyxx> Mimi: do they not fear the spectre of the 
    coming of the NOP Canadian Directorate? 
<vetrob> The foothills of the white mountains, and good 
    trout fishing less than an hour away 
<Mimi> LOL 
<Mimi> nope, Simon...ignorance is bliss ;o) 
<In> Sounds like a pretty place vetrob 
<vetrob> south of I-40 about 60 miles and west of the NM 
    border about 50 miles 
* phoenyxx reminds everyone that the humor presented here 
    is not a reflection of things in real life :-) 
<HelloKit> Go when you're ready, Mimi... not sure anyone 
    else is gonna show. 
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<Mimi> helle jen :o) 
<Mimi> hello, even 
<In> hi jen 
<`jen`> hi Mimi :) 
* phoenyxx is really a nice person (ask Mimi :-) ) just 
    a smart-a** sometimes :-) 
<vetrob> in> I like it, nice and quiet 
<Mimi> lol 
<`jen`> hi In :) 
* Mooooooo hugs Jen 
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<phoenyxx> ready to go... 
<KittyEek> darn it 
<Mimi> TONIGHT'S TOPIC IS 'cOOKING WITH A DISABILITY' 
* `jen` hugs Mooooooo 
<vetrob> greetings jen, WB 
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<Mimi> I decided not to do red 
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<`jen`> hi vetrob :) 
<In> vetrob, that is what is nice the quiet, so peaceful 
    :) 
<Mimi> QUESTION 1: HOW DO YOUR PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS AFFECT 
    YOUR ABILITY TO WORK IN THE KITCHEN? WHAT PROBLEMS DO YOU 
    ENCOUNTER? 
<vetrob> had to feed myself before the meeting so I 
    wouldn't drool on the keyboard 
<Mimi> is caps ok with you all? 
<HelloKit> np for me 
<vetrob> OK 
<`jen`> ok with me 
<phoenyxx> sometimes my hands cramp when I'm trying to 
    cook...I end up having to work slower than I'd like. 
<Mimi> good 
<In> ok for me 
<phoenyxx> plus in the chair counters all look like from 
    the perspective of a small child. 
<Mooooooo> yep, cool with me 
<HelloKit> I have trouble reaching the stove, opening 
    cans/bottles/packages, and with my sensitive skin I get 
    steam burns easily. 
<Mooooooo> My hand problems make it a real pain to flip 
    food over 
<vetrob> difficult part is standing and stirring for long 
    periods of time 
<Mimi> flip food over? 
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<Mimi> hello judi :o) 
<judi> hello everyone 
<Mooooooo> judi :o) 
<Mimi> QUESTION 1: HOW DO YOUR PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS AFFECT 
    YOUR ABILITY TO WORK IN THE KITCHEN? WHAT PROBLEMS DO YOU 
    ENCOUNTER? 
<In> I have trouble opening cans, etc. too 
<Mimi> that was for Judi :o) 
<In> hi judi 
<judi> thanks 
<In> I have a reacher to turn on the stove. 
<HelloKit> I also can't get into cupboards, refrigerators, 
    etc. 
<vetrob> do they make short stove so that I could sit 
<judi> reaching things in cabinets, picking up heavy pans, 
    opening things 
<`jen`> they do vetrob 
<Mooooooo> Carly, will you fit your house with accessable 
    cabinets? 
<judi> peeling is out of the question 
<In> judi, did u ever see the reachers they have & 
    peelers 
<HelloKit> I don't know if it will be possible. 
<Mimi> WHAT GADGETS HAVE YOU DISCOVERED THAT HELP YOU IN 
    MEAL PREPARATION? 
<Mimi> why not, Carly? 
<HelloKit> I can't lift my arms to reach in, I almost 
    need something that opens on top instead of in front. 
<judi> yes, I use a reacher and I have a peeler, but you 
    still have a little handwork to do and then chopping 
<Mooooooo> Ya gotta eat, Carly :o) 
<HelloKit> lol 
<phoenyxx> My grabber is good for getting cans off high 
    shelves and for picking things up that I've dropped. 
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<In> true, judi, that is what mine is like phoenyxx 
<cutecOol> HEllo all 
<HelloKit> The only gadget I have is a key chain can 
    opener for opening sodas... not real useful with cooking 
    :o) 
<Mimi> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THAT HELPS IN 
    CUTTING/SLICING/CHOPPING? 
<judi> My chair has a lift but I still can't get in 
    those corner cabinets 
<Mooooooo> what about removing the cabinet doors? 
<vetrob> there is an item found in some rest. supply 
    stores that cut with elec. 
<Mooooooo> slow down mimi :o) 
<judi> My cat would love that 
<phoenyxx> I just make sure I pace myself when cutting so 
    my carpal tunnel problem doesn't flare up. when I move 
    I'll have an attendant helping with things in the kitchen 
    though. 
<Mimi> ok, sowwy 
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<In> hi rose 
<rose^> hi all 
<Mimi> they make this thing that has sharp rollers, and to 
    chop things you just hold it in one hand and roll it 
    back and forth over the food 
<phoenyxx> judi- no kidding....my dogs would eat the kitchen 
    empty with no doors on the cabinets :-) 
<phoenyxx> Mimi- think I saw that on TV. 
<phoenyxx> neat! 
<judi> Iwhat's it called, Mimi? 
<vetrob> it's like an egg cutter a little larger and 
    powered with 1 or 2 blades 
<Mimi> it doesn't really have a name, but you can find 
    lots of different kinds of them in kitchen stores and 
    kitchen magazines 
<judi> Can you use it with very little grip capability? 
<phoenyxx> actually one of the things I am doing now is 
    looking for kitchen things to 'collect' so I have 
    everything when I move. 
<Mimi> I don't find it difficult to use, but it depends 
    on how hard the food is that you're cutting. its easier 
    with soft things 
<In> can I ask a question? 
<Mimi> shoot, In 
<Mimi> where can you find it, vetrob? 
<In> I do all my own cooking but baking is out of the 
    question, do any of you bake ? 
<vetrob> I found it at standard rest. supply Phoenix 
<phoenyxx> cool vetrob...thanks 
<vetrob> yes 
<vetrob> I bake 
<In> do u find it hard vetrob? 
<Mooooooo> I bake 
<judi> I only cook when my husband is with me. If I took 
    a large pan out of the oven it would end up in the 
    floor 
<Mimi> that's good to know, restaraunt supply stores are 
    probably great places to find things that make meal 
    preparation simpler 
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<judi> hi lily 
<Mimi> hello Lily! :o) 
<vetrob> only lifting large items out of the oven, legs 
    give out 
<In> Moooo, do u like baking 
<rose^> hi Lily :o) 
<Lily> hi judi, hi all! 
<In> hi Lily:) 
<Mimi> the current question is: WHAT GADGETS HAVE YOU 
    DISCOVERED THAT HELP YOU IN MEAL PREPARATION? 
<judi> Can I ask a question, Mimi? 
<HelloKit> If you can get one of those older microwaves 
    that doubles as a convection oven, it makes baking much 
    easier. 
<Mimi> sure judi, shoot! 
<vetrob> Mimi> I have the best luck finding things at 
    rest. supply than in special kitchen stores 
<HelloKit> And they make excellent chocolate chip cookies. 
    :o) 
<Mimi> what else have you found there vetrob? 
<Lily> flat-bottomed maesuring spoons 
<judi> Does anyone have any tips on how to get in the 
    refrigerator easily while in a chair, double door type 
<In> I always hated baking so quess I can't use my dis. 
    as an excuse 
<In> not double door judi 
<HelloKit> I don't mind baking... it's worth the outcome 
    :o) 
<Mooooooo> Mom has bought stuff from 'Pampered Chef' 
<cutecOol> hello all! 
<Mooooooo> lots of neat tools for cooking 
<cutecOol> hip hip! 
<cutecOol> horray!! 
<vetrob> if you have the funds they can find just about 
    anything you may need, I go to Phoenix once a month to 
    go there 
<In> Mine never turns out eatable 
<cutecOol> to Kit!:) 
<judi> I use my slow cooker a lot 
<HelloKit> lol In 
<vetrob> they have side opening ovens for example 
<In> in the summer I use the bbq alot 
<phoenyxx> one possible solution is MREs :-) 
<phoenyxx> easy to prepare. 
<Mimi> mres? 
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<judi> Reaaly, never seen a side opening oven 
<Mimi> wow, that would be great 
<cutecOol> is there a meeting today or something btw? 
<phoenyxx> mre= Meals Ready to Eat...military field rations, 
    also carried aboard spaceflights. 
<In> judi, does your stove have the knobs on the front 
<judi> yes 
<judi> yes 
<vetrob> phoenyxx WHAT? are you in control of your self to 
    suggest MRE's YUCK 
<Mimi> the meeting is right now cutecool, and colors are 
    not allowed, please turn them off 
<phoenyxx> vetrob: that was a joke! :-) 
<phoenyxx> I just realized what the 'vet' in your name 
    meant :-) 
<cutecOol> oh !:) 
<cutecOol> i'm sorry:) 
<Mimi> DO YOU KNOW OF ANY COMPANIES THAT SPECIALIZE IN 
    SUCH GADGETS? WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES, ADDRESSES, AND URLS? 
<cutecOol> i didn't nkow!! 
<In> judi, how do u like that type of stove? 
<Mimi> that's ok 
<cutecOol> the topic is! cooking with a disabitlity?!:) 
<cutecOol> great:) 
<judi> I get frustrated getting something out of the 
    fridge, esp milk-then firguring out how to get it to where 
    I'm working without spilling it, etc 
<Mooooooo> There was someone who email me about gadgets but 
    I dont think he showed up 
<Mimi> yeah, where is he? 
<judi> I'm sorry, In, I answered incorrectly, my stove has 
    knobs on the side 
<vetrob> for those in AZ try standard rest. supply in 
    phoenix and Tucson 
<Lily> judi, where did u get that peeling gadget? 
<judi> We redecorated our kitchen last year. The bar is 
    low so I can use my chair and under the sink is open, 
    for my chair 
<In> that is ok judi, my hubby wants to get new stove 
    with knobs on front, ours is reg. but I have a gadget to 
    turn on stove 
<judi> Service Merchandise 
<Lily> thx 
<In> Lily when u go to Halifax go to Harding Medical, 
    they have all those gadgets 
<Mooooooo> thats cool Judi 
<judi> Have any of you used a food processor much? 
<Mimi> for help with cutting, one guy emailed me with a 
    cool trick: he bought a bagel slicer and screwed it into 
    a breadboard, so that he can use it to hold things for 
    him while he cuts with one hand 
<Lily> great, thx in:) 
<Mooooooo> neat 
<judi> good idea 
<Mimi> I have, judi 
<Lily> yh! 
<In> good idea 
<judi> does it help? 
<Mimi> very much so 
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<Mimi> you just throw it in and it slices, grates, or 
    chops for you 
<In> It is on Russell 
<judi> can it do the chopping for you? 
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<judi> ok 
<Mimi> I also have a miniature chopper that I use to chop 
    onions 
<In> St. Lily 
<Lily> i use a blender a lot to mix things with one hand 
<Mimi> its llike a baby food processor and you just push 
    a button and it chops it 
<judi> good idea too 
<Mooooooo> lol cool 
<Mimi> get a kitchenaid mixer, too 
<judi> why 
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<Mooooooo> cooking for me is easy because i hate so many 
    things 
<In> Hi Laura 
<Mooooooo> laura :o) 
<Mimi> with a kitchenaid mixer, you just throw things in, 
    and turn it on...theres nothing at all you have to hold 
    on to 
<Laura2> Mimi! 
<Lily> thx, in, got it:) 
<In> lol 
<Laura2> hi 
<Mimi> hi laura :o) 
<judi> hi Laura 
<Laura2> I am always missing you when I come on 
<judi> Sounds great, Mimi 
<Laura2> hi everyone 
<Lily> hi laura 
<Mimi> laura, the current quesiton is: WHAT GADGETS HAVE 
    YOU DISCOVERED THAT HELP YOU IN MEAL PREPARATION? 
<Mimi> and DO YOU KNOW OF ANY COMPANIES THAT SPECIALIZE IN 
    SUCH GADGETS? WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES, ADDRESSES, AND URLS? 
<In> Nite all, enjoyed being here, take care, ttyl. 
<Laura2> I use a rocker knife 
<Mimi> I got one for christmas, judi, and I love it 
<judi> I have built up handled utensils, they help 
<Mimi> what's a rocker knife? 
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<judi> bye In 
<Laura2> but generally cooking is tough 
<phoenyxx> it's similar to a recliner knife Mimi. 
<Lily> mimi, is the food processer u describe safe if one 
    hand shakes? (i',m always afriad of accidents 
<vetrob> sorry all, system glich 
<Mimi> lol simon 
<HelloKit> lol Simon 
<judi> lol,phoenyxx 
<Laura2> it's a knife that you rock to cut food 
<Mimi> yeah, because you put the food down a tube, you 
    don't actually get near the blades. you have a tool to 
    push the food in 
<Laura2> requires less strength and dexterity 
<judi> I have ordered a few things from a handicapped 
    catalogue called MOMS 
<Lily> sounds goog, mimi 
<Mimi> is it 2 handled? 
<Laura2> so have I 
<Laura2> no 
<Mooooooo> do they have a web site? 
<Mimi> where can anyone get ahold of MOMS? 
<Laura2> don't know 
<judi> yes, but don't have the URL 
<judi> wait a sec, Mimi-I'll get it 
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<Laura2> I can't remember where they are located 
<vetrob> mimi> cost ? 
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<Laura2> but they have utensils, cups, plates etc 
<Mimi> cost of what, vetrob? 
<Laura2> depends on what you buy 
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<Laura2> they specialize in incontinent products 
<judi> Tel. number; 1-800-232-7443 
<Laura2> but also have other stuff 
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<Mimi> thanks judi :o) 
<Mooooooo> hi X-File 
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<Laura2> hold on 
<X-File> hi 
<Laura2> writing it 
<phoenyxx> judi- that was the number for MOMS? 
<vetrob> the cost of the processor 
<Mimi> welcome back vetrob 
<judi> Guess they don't have a web site-can't find it 
<vetrob> thanks, had to restart 
<phoenyxx> Laura2: sounds like a company I need to 
    contact...not for the kitchen things though! 
<Mimi> there are a ton of food processors out there, all 
    kinds of price ranges 
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<judi> hi han 
<Mooooooo> i found it 
<Mooooooo> http://www.momsup.com/ 
<vetrob> I'll check, thanks 
<Mimi> a kitchenaid mixer is pricey but it will last 
    forever 
<judi> thanks, Mooooooo 
<judi> I ordered the eating utensils and now I can cut my 
    own food 
<Mimi> i adore mine 
<vetrob> I missed something, utensils ? 
<phoenyxx> Laura2: is their selection of 'other products' 
    good? 
<Mooooooo> nothing on the web site 
<Laura2> I NEED SOME OF THOSE CUPS WITH A CUT OUT FOR 
    THE NOSE 
<judi> Everything I have ordered has been of good quality 
<Mimi> that leads to my next question: 
<Mimi> WHAT TIPS OR GADGETS HAVE YOU FOUND TO AID YOU IN 
    EATING THE FOODS THAT ARE DIFFICULT? 
<Laura2> sorry everyone lol 
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<Mimi> a cutout for the nose? 
<Mooooooo> Gil! :o) 
<Laura2> yes Phoenyxx 
<Laura2> very 
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<Gilbert> I found U - Yay! 
<phoenyxx> Laura2: good....I still get a little embarrasseda 
    about that. 
<HelloKit> Hey Gilbert :o) 
<Laura2> yes, because my neck motion is limited Mimi 
<Mimi> hello Gilbert 
<Laura2> it's ok 
<Mimi> I don't get it 
<Lily> what about using a straw, laura? 
<judi> Laura2, 5.99 pg 17 of catalogue 
<Laura2> I need some too, Phoenyxx, tired of taking Jenny 
    everywhere 
<Laura2> thanks judi 
<phoenyxx> Laura: Jenny? 
<judi> Its called the nosey cup 
<Laura2> I always use straws, but I'd like to try those 
<HelloKit> I have a sandwich clip... impossible to describe 
    but maybe I can send a pic later... anyway my dad made a 
    wood block to wedge the sandwich clip in so I could eat 
    my own sandwiches. 
<HelloKit> I don't use it much anymore though. 
<Laura2> my attendant, Ph 
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<Mimi> cool, carly 
<judi> I use cups with lids a holes for a straw 
<Mimi> send me a pic and I'll put it on my page 
<phoenyxx> Laura: oh...I'll need an attendant for that when 
    I move... one big disadvantage about getting my own place. 
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<judi> hi ticket 
<Mimi> hello ticket 
<judi> hi carrie 
<Carrie> Hi ticket 
<Ticket> Honey,!!! I'm home!!!! and it's raining... 
<Lily> hi ticket 
<HelloKit> I will Mimi, and I'll try to find out where I 
    got the clip too. 
<Laura2> hi ticket 
<Mooooooo> hi ticket 
<Mimi> for those who just joined us, the current questiion 
    is: 
<phoenyxx> hello ticket 
<Laura2> how's your ankle? 
<cutecOol> brb! 
<Mimi> WHAT TIPS OR GADGETS HAVE YOU FOUND TO AID YOU IN 
    EATING THE FOODS THAT ARE DIFFICULT? 
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<judi> Does anyone use the plates with sides 
<Ticket> in a cast from My hip down... feling a little 
    better.. 
<vetrob> If any could contact John Smily at the VA 
    hospital Tucson, he was working on mechanicals to assist 
    those with limited arm movement. He is not available on 
    the web but he is smart 
<Laura2> I want to try them 
<Laura2> good ticket 
<Lily> use a straw and bend to drink, rather that raising 
    a glass and spilling 
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<judi> I have a tendency to send food flying across the 
    room 
<Laura2> so do I 
<Ticket> i'm using crutches besides my chair... 
<Lily> lol 
<judi> I wondered if those plates would help 
* Ticket is plotting a food fight!!! 
<Laura2> I cannot get food on spoon well 
<HelloKit> I eat almost everything just by bending down and 
    eating like an animal... hehe Haven't figured out soup yet 
    though ;o) 
<Laura2> lol 
* Ticket can now drink beer now that he's home!!! 
<Laura2> any ideas? 
<vetrob> laura, what about a flat spoon 
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<Lily> does anyone have a way of breaking an egg cleany? 
<judi> thumb 
<Ticket> Laura need a shovel??? 
<phoenyxx> biggest problem I've had is having the food in 
    front of me only to have my hands and wrists suddenly 
    start hurting really bad. 
<phoenyxx> haven't figured out a way around that yet. 
<Ticket> oversized straw... 
<Laura2> my wrists are very stiff 
<Ticket> i do have a trough.... 
<Laura2> use a brace on right hand 
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<judi> Sometimes I use a knife to push things onto my 
    fork 
<phoenyxx> Laura: I have carpal tunnel syndrome from pushing 
    myself in my chair. 
<vetrob> phoeyxx, what about ridged wrist braces 
<Laura2> I can't 
<judi> Lily, eggs are a problem 
<Lily> yes 
<Lily> its the shell 
<judi> any ideas anyone? 
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<phoenyxx> vetrob: those work well....I'm also getting better 
    at pacing myself throughout the day to maximize energy, so 
    I'm not hurting when I really need to use my hands. 
<Laura2> I wonder if plates with sides would help me push 
    food 
<Mimi> hi river 
<Riverboat> Hi 
<Ticket> mimimimimimimimimimimi!!!!! 
<judi> maybe, Laura 
<Riverboat> Hi Mimi 
<Mimi> :o) 
<HelloKit> Riverboat :o) 
<Mooooooo> hiya RB 
<Ticket> i'm home!!! 
<Laura2> mimimimi 
<Riverboat> Hi Kitty 
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<vetrob> eggs, lay them on a dish towel then with the 
    edge of a butter knife give it a rap and then over the 
    skilitt 
<Riverboat> Howdy Mooooooo 
<phoenyxx> speaking of carpal tunnel, I get the feeling 
    it's time to go, geez I need voice recognition! :-) 
<Mooooooo> hello Buzzard 
<phoenyxx> I'll see you all later! 
<phoenyxx> bye! :-) 
<Mimi> awww, bye simon 
<judi> bye simon 
<Lily> vet, thx, i'lltry it 
<Mooooooo> bye simon 
<Mimi> hi buzzard 
<Laura2> take care 
<Buzzard> hello all 
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    get drunk... :o) 
<Lily> bye simon 
<Mooooooo> yuck 
<phoenyxx> bye :-) 
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<judi> Ticket we are having a meeting! 
<Ticket> oops... sorry.... 
<judi> that's ok 
<Ticket> :o( 
<Mimi> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK 
    THE GROUP, IN CASE SOMEONE MIGHT KNOW OF A WAY FOR YOU 
    TO MAKE A CERTAIN TASK EASIER? 
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<Mimi> OR, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER TIPS, TRICKS, OR HINTS 
    DO YOU HAVE TO SHARE? 
<judi> oops, didn't mean to scare him off 
<Laura2> :) 
<Mooooooo> maybe a robotic food scooper 
<judi> Carring things while in a chair? 
<Mimi> oops, well I guess you guys can understand that in 
    spite of the bad grammar 
<HelloKit> lol 
<judi> lol mimi 
<Laura2> lifting plates can sometimes be hard 
<vetrob> Question? how to cook foods that require long 
    standing to stir a better way ? HELP 
<judi> good question 
<Laura2> because my fine motor control is limited 
<HelloKit> Gotta eat dinner... back later. 
<Laura2> yes, it is 
<judi> me too Laura 
<Mimi> bye Carly :o) 
<vetrob> judi> depends on the chair some have various trays 
    available now 
<judi> bye Carly 
<Mimi> most things that you have to stir continually are 
    very delicate things like sauces 
<Riverboat> bye Carly 
<Lily> bye kit 
<judi> Mine is a powerchair converted from a 3 wheeler 
<HelloKit> see ya :o) 
<Mooooooo> bye Carly 
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<Mimi> most sauces like that have a shortcut method, vetrob 
<Mimi> or a packaged mix ;o) 
<Gilbert> Ok, gotta go 
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<Lily> i use canned gavies and sauces, don't have to stir 
    those 
<vetrob> yes, I love to cook with wine sauces, but it is 
    hard with bad legs to stand there 
<Riverboat> Geez! I can never find Debi here 
<Mimi> I have a blender bearnaise sauce recipe, for example 
<Laura2> bye carly 
<Laura2> what about a crock pot or something? 
<judi> I have used the Black and Decker cordless mixer for 
    some things reauiring stirring, but you can't use it on 
    Teflon 
<Mimi> you can't really cook a sauce in a crock pot, 
    because it has to evaporate to thicken, Laura 
<Laura2> true 
<Laura2> oh 
<vetrob> Shortcut ? I have never found a shortcut with 
    wine sauces, please inform me !!! 
<Mimi> other things, though, certainly :o) 
<Laura2> I don't do sauce, can you tell :) 
<Mimi> I have 'mock hollandaise', 'blender bearnaise'...no 
    real wine sauces though 
<Mimi> I haven't done much with wine sauces 
<Mimi> I'm great at white sauces :o) 
<vetrob> Oh, I will keep searching and let all know when 
    I found something 
<Mimi> vetrob, I know just the place for you to ask your 
    question 
<judi> Mimi, does your processor have a large opening? 
<vetrob> The holidays are the worst time to cook with a 
    dis, any ideas 
<vetrob> please tell me ! 
<Mimi> vetrob, to go 
    http://www.epicurious.com/HyperNews/get/swap.html 
<Lily> bye, all, bedtime:)) 
<Laura2> not sure what you meat, rob 
<judi> Night Lily 
<Mooooooo> nite lily 
<Laura2> ok lily 
<Mimi> ask any cooking questions there :o) 
<Riverboat> nite Lily 
<Mimi> someone will always know something 
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<Mimi> vetrob: potluck 
<judi> Mimi, did you see my question? 
<Mimi> oops 
<Mimi> I have an ancient processor 
<vetrob> mimi> a million thanks 
<Mimi> the opening is about 2x3 inches 
<Mimi> lol 
<Laura2> and she is the queen of scrolling back :) 
<Mimi> there are way better ones out there though, that 
    come with attachments galore 
<judi> I keep seeing ones that you would have to cut up 
    things like potatoes to get them in the opening 
<vetrob> I cook better than most except my mom and she 
    has quit holiday cooking 
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<Mimi> wb chood 
<Mimi> you must be Craig Hood :o) 
<Mimi> Craig, we need a way to push food on a spoon, 
    please 
<Mimi> any ideas? 
<judi> Its my bedtime too, good meeting Mimi-sorry I chased 
    ticket off 
<Mimi> that's ok judi, you didn't :o) 
<Riverboat> nite judi 
<judi> Good night 
<chood> Yep it's me. It took a while to figure this out. 
    It's my first chat :) 
<Mimi> welcome :o) 
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<vetrob> bye judi 
<Laura2> nice to see you 
<Riverboat> push food with breaad or roll 
<Laura2> I get tired of using right hand to do it 
<Riverboat> use left hand :o) 
<vetrob> mimi> what about a depressed plate instead of a 
    flat one, the food would go to the center 
<Laura2> no, I can only use left :) 
<Laura2> right is limited 
<Mimi> it's not for me vetrob, so I can't say :o) 
<Laura2> good idea, mimi 
<Laura2> vetrob, I mean 
<Laura2> i'll try it 
<chood> Has anyone ever used good grips products? 
<Laura2> yes 
<vetrob> I have some friends who do ceramics, I'll ask 
    about getting one made, yes ? 
<Mimi> no, what are they? 
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<Laura2> built up utensils 
<Mimi> hello bobc 
<vetrob> built up how ? 
<bobc> hi 
<Laura2> but I don't really need them 
<bobc> i gather this is not the cooking with disabilities 
    chat place 
<Mimi> yes, it is bobc 
<bobc> tnx 
<chood> They make a bunch of speciality utensils and 
    plates. They can be used w/ one hand. 
<Laura2> they have rubber on then, large space to grip 
<Mimi> we're discussing gadgets, tips, and tricks 
<bobc> ok 
<vetrob> who carries them ? 
<Mimi> do they have a web page? 
<Laura2> sears here 
<chood> You can find a lot of these things at 
    http://www.goallegro.com. 
<Laura2> not that I know of, but I'll be looking 
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<vetrob> thanks 
<Mimi> great, thanks craig :o) 
<Laura2> cool 
<chood> Anytime. 
<bobc> i'm looking for folding metal reachers 
<Mimi> bobc, do you have any questions you want to throw 
    out? hints, advice? 
<Mimi> a few people were talking about reachers earlier, 
    but they left 
<chood> Allegro has those also. 
<bobc> i make noodles stroganoff with meat balls from the 
    schwan man 
<bobc> i also buy a pkg of lipton noodles stroganoff 
<Laura2> brb 
<bobc> no mess and not much cooking 
<Mimi> vetrob...I just found something for your stirring 
    problem!! 
<vetrob> anybody want a simple pizza way ? 
<Mimi> I was reading something a woman sent me... 
<vetrob> OK, what ! please tell me 
<bobc> <bobc> to make or to cut 
<vetrob> make 
<Mimi> she says she uses a tall bar stool to sit on 
    while she's at the stove. It keeps her high enough to see 
    and stir, but she's sitting down. 
<Riverboat> both, bobc 
<bobc> tnks 
<Mimi> would that work for you vetrob? 
<vetrob> I'll try it, again, thanks 
<vetrob> let us see, first the stool 
<Mimi> she also has her kitchen arranged in stations, with 
    everything at hand for each activity 
<vetrob> well, I guess it's time to remodel 
<Mimi> battery operated sifter :o) 
<Mimi> bread machine 
<Mimi> this was a cool letter 
<vetrob> sounds as she planned it out well 
<Mimi> yeah 
<Mimi> she sits at the kitchen table for the food 
    preparation and keeps a trash can next to her 
<Mooooooo> brb 
<Mimi> IS ANYONE ON A SPECIAL DIET, OR IS SOMEONE IN YOUR 
    FAMILY ON A SPECIAL DIET? 
<Riverboat> I am 
<Mimi> what is that, RB? 
<Riverboat> Cholesterol 
<Riverboat> sugar diabetes 
<Mimi> what problems do you encounter in preparing special 
    meals? 
<bobc> bobc says bye 
<vetrob> for pizza, take your favorite flat bread, sm. can 
    tomatoe sauce, shredded cheese, sliced pepperoni and can 
    muchrooms bake at 350 for 20 minutes done 
<Riverboat> bye bobc 
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<vetrob> bye bobc 
<Mimi> yum, vetrob :o) 
<Mimi> that sounds good 
<vetrob> I try to find easy ways for good food 
<Riverboat> I advoid some special meals although I should 
    stay on the diet 
<Mimi> if you have any other easy recipes, mail them to 
    me at mimi@lino.com and i'll put them on my web page 
<chood> Does anyone have a recipe for dumplings? 
<Riverboat> how can you eat salads with no teeth? 
<Mimi> I just use the bisquick recipe, craig, they're great 
    ;o) 
<Riverboat> What is your web page URL Mimi? 
<Laura2> bbl 
<Mimi> I'ts not written yet, RB :o) 
<Mimi> I'm doing research for it 
<chood> I've used bisquick but they always come out spongy. 
<vetrob> Rb> how limited is you diet ? 
<Riverboat> Ok, I see 
<Mimi> but the non-disability one is at 
    http://www.lino.com/~mimi/vegetablepatch/home.htm 
<Riverboat> Laura2, What does bbl mean? 
<Mimi> I like them spongy...how do you like yours? 
<Mimi> bbl means be back later 
<Riverboat> Ok, thanks Mimi 
<Mimi> I'm answering because she's gone ;o) 
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<Mimi> np 
<Mimi> hi carrie 
<Carrie> Hi 
<Carrie> :) 
<vetrob> greetings carrie 
<Riverboat> hi carrie 
<Carrie> Hi all :) 
<chood> I like them a little denser. 
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<Mimi> well, if no one has any objections I'll turn off 
    the logs 
<Carrie> Hi Hugh!!!! 
<Mimi> hi hugh 
<Carrie> :) 
<hanover9> hi all 
<Carrie> How are ya 
<hanover9> great here 
<Carrie> that is good to hear 
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