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  ChanServ (nanook@eskimo.com)
  Mooooooo (azdse@uswest.net)
  Lily
  Lonewolf
  MsAmazin
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<Lonewolf> I'm back 
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<Mooooooo> Howdy peoples 
<Lonewolf> howdy 
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<MsAmazin> hi ya 
<WonderW> hi there 
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<Mooooooo> Im not sure how to do this meeting 
<Lonewolf> I'll get ya started if you want 
<Mooooooo> because I'm Y2K compliant 
<Mooooooo> ok 
<Mooooooo> please 
<Lonewolf> log on? 
<Mooooooo> yep 
<Lonewolf> ok 
<Lonewolf> Meeting has begun 
<Lonewolf> Tonight Daniel is going to answer Y2-K questions 
    for us 
<WonderW> how do you become compliant? 
<Lonewolf> Daniel do you want to do the ? or not 
<Lily> agree a lot? 
<WonderW> lol 
<Mooooooo> compliancy is up the the hardware/software 
    manufacturers 
<Mooooooo> all we can do is upgrade our software if it no 
    longer works 
<WonderW> ok 
<Lonewolf> I keep seeing things about setting your computer 
    to 1972 what's that for? 
<MsAmazin> how do you find out if it's y2k? 
<Mooooooo> putting an earlier date on it will keep the 
    problem from happening 
<Mooooooo> to check, set your clock to the year 2000 
<Lonewolf> should we do that? 
<Mooooooo> and see if it explodes 
<Mooooooo> :o) 
<Lily> lol 
<Lonewolf> pardon? 
<In> lol 
<MsAmazin> lol...I set mine to 2032 
<Mooooooo> try setting the clock forward first 
<MsAmazin> it was ok 
<Lonewolf> oh ok 
<MsAmazin> so, that's it? 
<WonderW> ok 
<Lonewolf> vcr's too 
<Mooooooo> yep 
<MsAmazin> okie 
<Mooooooo> any new vcr is compliant 
<Lonewolf> ours are old 
<Mooooooo> automobiles should have no problem 
<WonderW> should we do that now? 
<Mooooooo> after the meeting 
<In> it is not really going 2 hurt the pc that much is 
    it? 
<Lily> is it a problem for the average PC, or has it 
    been blown out of proportion? 
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<Mooooooo> no, Marilyn 
<Mooooooo> it has been blown way out of proportion 
<Mooooooo> most of it is a marketing gimmick 
<Lily> yes, i heard that 
<Lonewolf> why do they say it will effect meds, banks etc? 
<Mooooooo> to get companies to pay billions in fees to 
    make sure they are compliant 
<WonderW> so what basis does it have in fact? 
<KimNchair> should i stock lima beans or green beans in my 
    shelter? 
<Lily> yup, companyies making fortunes on it 
<Mooooooo> here is how it works.... 
<Mooooooo> i'll explain in as simple as possible terms 
<Lonewolf> I have heard that Kim-that we should stock up 
    on canned goods etc 
<WonderW> we have been Kim, my mom is buying her farm for 
    this purpose 
<Mooooooo> computers store dates in a special way 
<Mooooooo> that special way is always the same size 
<KimNchair> but i don't like beans:( 
<Mooooooo> but because the number is higher, the way its 
    stored must be larger 
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<Mooooooo> old programs dont understand that 
<Lily> eat rutabagas, kim 
<Mooooooo> and will crash 
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<Lonewolf> ok but why the meds and food scares 
<MsAmazin1> imposter 
<Mooooooo> meds will not be affected 
<Mooooooo> neither will foods 
<Lily> is it a marketing scam, moo? 
<Mooooooo> like turning the page of a calendar will not 
    make you a day older 
<Mooooooo> for the most part, yes 
<Lonewolf> water electricity? 
<WonderW> but if no one changes dates, computers will 
    crash, no? 
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<Mooooooo> my bet is that most companies have upgraded 
<Mooooooo> they need to 
<Mooooooo> they cannot afford the losses 
<WonderW> true 
<Mooooooo> government may be different 
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<In> my program just crashed Daniel:)))))) 
<Mooooooo> which, Marilyn? 
<In> iirc 
<MsAmazin> we had a 'special' news program on y2k for our 
    area 
<Mooooooo> when you changed the date? 
<In> I never changed the date 
<Mooooooo> then it wasnt Y2K, dear 
<In> it just crashed & I cannot log back on 
<In> hehe.......did not think it was 
<MsAmazin> it happened to me too In 
<WonderW> may just be having probs logging in, drar 
<In> thx Mx......not only me then 
<In> Ms 
<Lonewolf> ok 
<anny1> me 2 
<Mooooooo> what did they say,denise 
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<WonderW> make sure you wait adequately to see if ut 
    connects before disconnecting amd reconnecting 
<Lily> brb 
<MsAmazin> one side said everything would be ok...the other 
    said everything would collapse :) 
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<shakey73> are you people in a meeting? 
<Lonewolf> yes 
<WonderW> yep 
<Mooooooo> yep, you can stay 
<LilyBRB> yes, shakey 
<Lonewolf> I was in wrong room while ago 
<Lonewolf> sorry 
<Lonewolf> Y2-K questions shakey 
<shakey73> im confused?talk tomorrow 
<Lonewolf> ask away 
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<Lonewolf> dumb question daniel 
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<Lonewolf> nut is it the computer or the basic programming 
<Lonewolf> but 
<Mooooooo> the programming 
<Lonewolf> like win98 or the actual machine itself 
<Lonewolf> IC 
<WonderW> I changed date, is ok 
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<Mooooooo> be sure to change it back 
<WonderW> I will 
<Lonewolf> I changed date and nothing happened so its ok? 
<Kark> What changes in dates, missed that 
<Mooooooo> you have to try your different programs with the 
    date changed 
<KimNchair> date on what?? 
<Mooooooo> the computer clock 
<Lonewolf> oh ok 
<MsAmazin> you can also check your computers at 
    www.macafee.com 
<Lonewolf> ok 
<MsAmazin> whooops mcafee 
<KimNchair> 2 f's 
<Mooooooo> for y2k? 
<MsAmazin> grrr..sorry, typing bad today 
<MsAmazin> yes Mooooooo 
<Mooooooo> cool 
<Lonewolf> are those internet scans safe Mooooooo 
<WonderW> ok 
<MsAmazin> we did it last week 
<Lonewolf> were u ok? 
<Kark> I know people that are taking there money out of 
    the bank before the new year because they feel there will 
    be troubles after 
<Mooooooo> if they are a reputable company, then im sure 
    they're safe 
<Lonewolf> ok 
<Lonewolf> me too Karen 
<KimNchair> chane the puter clock then openm programs, if 
    they work i'm lucky?? 
<KimNchair> change 
<Lonewolf> safe not lucky 
<Mooooooo> change the date and run some different programs 
<Kark> If everyone thinks this way won't there big big 
    troubles in banking 
<Mooooooo> banks have too much to lose 
<Mooooooo> they will be compliant 
<KimNchair> change the date to what? 
<Lonewolf> year 2000 
<In> I use 2 work at a bank & they r ready 4 it 
<Kark> So you think its all big hip Mooooooo? 
<Mooooooo> mostly hype 
<Kark> hipe 
<Kark> lol 
<Mooooooo> IRS is still having problems 
<Lonewolf> that's not good 
<WonderW> NO 
<anny1> lol hip 
<MsAmazin> social security is sposed to be ok 
<Lonewolf> SS is supposed to be compliant isn't it? 
<Lonewolf> lol 
<Mooooooo> government is having problems 
<Lonewolf> why? 
<Mooooooo> because they are government :o) 
<Lonewolf> oh 
<MsAmazin> hehe...Hey...<---former gov't employee 
<Lonewolf> that's bad though it effects all of us 
<In> every1 really had enough time 2 b prepared 4 it 
    though....they knew it was coming...right 
<Mooooooo> yes, they've known 
<Mooooooo> but the people who wrote the software are old, 
    retired, or expired 
<Mooooooo> and did not care 
<Lonewolf> IC 
<Lonewolf> that in itself is scarey 
<Kark> You would think they would have the money 
<Kark> to invest in agreat system 
<Lonewolf> yes 
<Mooooooo> private sector already has 
<In> ic what u mean then Daniel 
<Mooooooo> government has red tape 
<MsAmazin> I worked in Comptroller Dept..handled the 
    funding...we got bottom of the barrel 
<Lonewolf> wonder if Canada is compliant 
<Lonewolf> I mean is it just our govt in US or others 
    too 
<Mooooooo> probably all governments 
<Kark> I don't get it, government officials get big raises 
<In> we r having the same scare tactic here in 
<In> Canada 
<Lonewolf> hum 
<Kark> oooops, sorry, didn't mean to talk politics 
<anny1> gov. is entrenched in infinate detail 
<Lonewolf> see this to me is the real scare-govts not 
    beoing compliant 
<anny1> our agency has a y2k coordinator 
<Kark> I agree Judi 
<Lonewolf> that's good 
<Lonewolf> I mean we can be all prepared and still be in 
    dutch 
<Lonewolf> daniel you have ade my head swim 
<Lonewolf> made 
<Mooooooo> i think what will cause bigger problems is 
    people pulling their money out of the banks 
<Lonewolf> causing a crash of our financial system? 
<Mooooooo> yes 
<Lonewolf> then wall street goes kerplunk-right? 
<Mooooooo> yep 
<Lonewolf> yikes 
<LilyBRB> back 
<Mooooooo> self perpetuation 
<Lonewolf> thinking retirement fund here 
<In> & me losing my LTD from the bank:))) 
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<In> sorry just had 2 type that 
<Kark> Boy thats a mind blower 
<KimNchair> so basically there's not a dang thing we can 
    do but worry if that makes us happy? 
<Mooooooo> correct 
<Kark> all that over a possible problem 
<Lily> thats what i've heard, its thge panic that will be 
    the prob. 
<Kark> yes Lily 
<Lonewolf> ya know my husbands company is increasing the 
    retirement benefits in 2000-substantially 
<Lonewolf> I am starting to see why 
<Lily> why? 
<Lonewolf> all retirement benefits are kept in stock 
<Lily> ah, ok 
<anny1> i bet the ppl pulling money out of banks are 
    relativly few 
<Mooooooo> i hope so 
<Kark> doesn't seem that way 
<Kark> I hear many talking about it 
<KimNchair> i will leave my @2.99 in the bank i promise 
<Lonewolf> most opinions I have heard-the people are scared 
<KimNchair> $ 
<WonderW> lol 
<Lily> lol,kim 
<Mooooooo> im not scared 
<Lonewolf> no but most don't understand 
<Mooooooo> Jesus is Y2K compliant :o) 
<Lonewolf> true 
<Kark> lol 
<WonderW> exactly 
<Lily> yes, but a lot of ppl beieve readers clearing house 
    too 
<anny1> i bet gates and trump and fellows like that leave 
    theirs in 
<Lily> yup, anny 
<Lonewolf> yea 
<WonderW> publishers, Alison? 
<Lonewolf> she had surgery today 
<Lily> yes, you kon, youve won a million dollars 
<Lonewolf> publisher's clearing house 
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<Mooooooo> hello ray 
<Lily> o, small typo 
<WonderW> hi Tay 
<Lonewolf> np sis I was in wrong room while agp 
<Lonewolf> hi ray 
<Lily> as in TAY 
<In> hi Ray 
<Ray-1> Hi, all. 
<WonderW> lol 
<Lonewolf> any more questions for Daniel? 
<Lily> tea........ 
<KimNchair> lima or green?? 
<Lily> yea 
<Lonewolf> serious 
<Lily> will moday become mondak? 
<Mooooooo> lol 
<Lily> o, serious, hmmmmmmmm 
<Lonewolf> sis you need to take pain pill and go to bed 
<Lily> lol, ok 
<In> have 2 go all...bye, take care....thanks Daniel:)))))) 
<Kark> Bye In 
<Lonewolf> bye In 
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<Lonewolf> No more questions? 
<Ray-1> Is there a topic or are we all being silly? 
<Lonewolf> any gen computer questions while we have mooooo 
    pinned down here? 
<Mooooooo> the topic is Y2K 
<Lonewolf> Y2-K Ray 
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<Ray-1> Is it as bad as everyone says? 
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<Mooooooo> I dont think so 
<Lonewolf> how do you close an open port daniel 
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<Mooooooo> which? 
<Lily> night all 
<Lonewolf> the ones you told me to close-son has been too 
    busy 
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<WonderW> she went on and on and on 
<Lonewolf> night sis 
<Kark> I read that the health industry might be hit hard 
<Lonewolf> me too which is why I asked about meds 
<Mooooooo> i'll check, judy 
<Ray-1> Realistically, Daniel, what do YOU expect will 
    happen on 1-1-00? 
<KimNchair> lots of commodes stopped up from drunks? 
<Mooooooo> I expect to sleep in that day. other than that, 
    all anyone can do is guess 
<Ray-1> lol. 
<Lonewolf> Ray he told us private secotrs have become 
    compliant 
<Lonewolf> its gov't that is lagging 
<Lonewolf> also set your computer date to 2000 and see if 
    your programs run ok 
<KimNchair> will that make win 95 crash? 
<Lonewolf> old vcr's set to 1972 
<Kark> My comany has millions of accounts and we made a 
    switch to a system that is compliant but it has many 
    glitches, we are changing again in aug 
<Mooooooo> i doubt that win95/98 will have much problems 
<Lonewolf> what co is that Karen 
<Mooooooo> ms-dos is screwed 
<Mooooooo> linux is fine 
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<Kark> First Card Services 
<Lonewolf> ms dos is about out anyway isn't it? 
<Ray-1> I think there will be lots of suicides in Vegas 
    among people who paid way too much for Streisand tickets 
    and figure the money could have been better spent. 
<Mooooooo> right 
<Lonewolf> is that a credit card? 
<Mooooooo> lol 
<Kark> Yes 
<Lonewolf> I didn't think about credit cards 
<Mooooooo> credit cards will be fine 
<Mooooooo> im sure of that 
<Lonewolf> if a system isn't compliant-like a hospital-what 
    will happen to records etc? 
<WonderW> good 
<Lonewolf> wud we be wise to ask 
<Mooooooo> yes, ask your hospital 
<Lonewolf> or get copies of our med records? 
<Mooooooo> you could do that too 
<Ray-1> Daniel, do you know how compliant the Social 
    Security Admin. is? 
<Lonewolf> think I'll start making some callsa 
<Mooooooo> no, i dont 
<Lonewolf> I'm still concerned about the stock market 
<KimNchair> want the ssa 800 number so you can ask? 
<Ray-1> No, that's okay. thanx, Kim. 
<KimNchair> k 
<Lonewolf> well is that all? 
<KimNchair> all for me 
<Lonewolf> Thanks a lot daniel 
<Mooooooo> thank you :o) 
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