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Participants:
  HandiBot
  ChanServ
  Mooooooo (dse@pacific.net)
  fence
  hanover9 (haughey@admin.con2.com)
  Pyro (alita@earthlink.net)
  Ais
  In
  mouse
  Lily
  jrt (twyford@sv.net.au)
  Mimi (mimi@lino.com)
  totoaust
  HelloKit (disabled@softhome.net)
  LordUnix
  Diablo1
  rose
  skiier
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<Diablo1> ohh ok 
<rose> hi In andjrt 
<skiier> So what is the chat about today? 
<Diablo1> sorry i didn't reply 
<Diablo1> i was away for the second 
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<phoenyxx> good evening everyone! 
<Lily> rose, emma works with susan in 'fairvie' 
<skiier> Hi mouse 
<jrt> Hi phoenyxx 
<Mimi> hi simon 
<mouse> Mimi is this the time you usually have your 
    meetings on Weds 
<Mimi> how are you? 
<Lily> fairview 
<phoenyxx> Mimi! :-) I am just fine :-) 
<Diablo1> yep 
<skiier> I am fine 
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<Diablo1> so what have you all been up to 
<phoenyxx> ack! I have come at a bad time. 
<In> For everyone, how do you keep track of everyone, 
    don't get angry with me if I ask same questions twice. 
<LordUnix> toto what do u want 
<jrt> I have a book In 
<Mimi> yes, this is the meeting 
<Mimi> it starts in 4 minutes 
<Mimi> why a bad time simon? 
<hanover9> in i write it down and you get to know some 
    better then others 
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<Mooooooo> its past 6 
<totoaust> Lord Unix if you are expert at unix systems 
    please respond in dcc 
<In> jrt, how did you get the book 
<mouse> OK - I have never quite sorted out the time, but 
    tonight jrt told me at nearly 10.00 my time - in 5 hours 
    so now I know ) 
<phoenyxx> I logged in, jumped in ready to joke and then 
    looked up and saw the topic. I feel REALLY STUPID :-( 
<Diablo1> past 9 here 
<jrt> yes In and none of us bite 
<jrt> Hi Jo 
<Mimi> that's ok 
<LordUnix> u want to talk to me toto join #pimpc 
<Diablo1> with the exception of me in 
<skiier> none of bite?sa 
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<jrt> just an exercise book 
<Mooooooo> hi gary 
<In> jrt, think you are all nice. 
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<mouse> Hi cod 
<Ais> hi cod 
<totoaust> LordUnix:ok will you be there for a while 
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<jrt> Hi cod 
<LordUnix> yes 
<Diablo1> you haven't got to meet me yet have you In 
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<Jo-> Hello All!! Hello Mooooooo darling 
<Mooooooo> i dont know what other to say than im gonna 
    miss her bad 
<phoenyxx> Thanks Mimi, I was worried about coming off 
    insensitive. 
<skiier> DIABLO IS A COOL GAME 
<In> No Diablo1 
<Mimi> Hi Jo 
<Ais> hi jo 
<Ais> wb cod 
<Mooooooo> ive never met anyone with as much genuine 
    compassion for others as she did 
<Diablo1> yes diablo is a cool game 
<codfish> thanks 
<Mimi> I know...she was so full of love! 
<MrLinux> i feeel bad i knew her and she was allwayz nice 
    to me i will miss her 
<Lily> same here, mooo 
<Mimi> she really cared about everyone 
<Diablo1> hello jo 
<phoenyxx> May I ask what happened? 
<MrLinux> yes she did 
<skiier> STAR CRAF IS BETTER 
<Diablo1> OHHHHH MY GOODNESS WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN JO 
<MrLinux> a car accident 
<mouse> Yes I know that too - she made others feel 
    important 
<Mimi> Simon, she was killed in a car accident 
<jrt> I will miss the little chat we used to have 
    together 
<phoenyxx> I am very sorry. 
<Diablo1> yes i am still trying to get star craft 
<HelloKit> For those who don't already know, our friend 
    Keteri was involved in a car accident Friday and did not 
    survive. Tonight's chat is dedicated to her. I won't be 
    formally hosting this meeting, instead I'd like us all just 
    to take this time to talk about and remember her. 
<Mimi> THIS IS A MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR OUR FRIEND KETERI 
    WHO DIED FRIDAY MORNING IN A CAR ACCIDENT 
<Jo-> Diablo in and out of hospital. 
<Mimi> and please lets stay on topic 
<Diablo1> ohhh 
<phoenyxx> I feel really bad at times like this, I want 
    to say something, but I never know what to say or how to 
    really express things. 
<Diablo1> sorry to hear 
<In> Have we met Jo 
<Diablo1> i haven't really been here too much either but 
    am starting to make my way back 
<mouse> When I joined she was there - disabled is going 
    to have an empty space for me with her gone 
<Mimi> ket was someone very special to a lot of 
    individuals in the channel 
<Lily> none of us do, pheonyx 
<Diablo1> mimi you mean ket is gone 
* MrLinux feels real bad 
<Mimi> Diablo...ket was killed 
<skiier> sORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR FRIEND 
<Diablo1> ohhhhhh my 
<Diablo1> when 
<Jo-> She was a very beautiful person inside and out. I 
    have her picture on the wall. Long dark hair and very 
    pretty young lady but it was the inner persons' beauty 
    that made her special. 
<jrt> yes she was so sweet and kind, never a nasty 
    comment about anybody 
<Mimi> scroll up please, we've been talking about it for a 
    while now :o( 
<codfish> may her heart be truly at peace 
<Diablo1> yes i only got to know hte inside person 
* phoenyxx agrees with codfish 
<Mimi> her inner beauty just shone, Jo 
<mouse> I too have her smiling picture on my printer 
<Mimi> she had so many problems, and never bitched or 
    complained 
<Diablo1> and that was all i needed to know to see that 
    she was a very beatiful person 
<phoenyxx> what was her disability, pardon the presence 
    again. 
<Diablo1> a true gift of god 
<jrt> the world has lost a beautiful person 
<Mimi> she cared far too much about others for that 
<Mimi> more of us need to be like Ket...she cared about 
    other people and tried not to dwell on her own problems 
<codfish> she was the kind of person that allowed us to 
    be able to deal with cold people we met, one on a 
    thousand 
<MrLinux> ok hold on 
<Lily> she always asked me about me, never spoke about 
    herself 
<Mimi> I think she drew strength from the knowledge that 
    she helped all of us...she felt needed and useful, and 
    loved 
<phoenyxx> If it means anything, I do feel very guilty 
    about what happens to other people. 
<hanover9> ket knew how to warm your heart when you were 
    down and she help so much 
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<jrt> yes I agree Mimi, she never ever complained, yet she 
    had all the right to 
<Mooooooo> exactly mimi, no matter how much she was hurting 
    (and she had a world of hurts) she put it all aside when 
    soemone else was in need 
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<In> Never knew her but wish I had. 
<phoenyxx> I didn't know her that well, but all I can say 
    is that I saw what the rest of you saw in her. 
<Jo-> I know some of you find peace by talking about this 
    but I must leave. It is more important to me to honor 
    her beliefs. One of those is not saying the name after 
    death to allow her soul peace in rest. Don't mean to 
    insult anyone but rather than slip and use it I am 
    leaving. 
<Mooooooo> i understand jo 
<jrt> I understand Jo 
<Lily> ok, jo:) 
<In> Bye Jo 
<codfish> ok 
<hanover9> ok jothat sounds right 
<Mimi> most people, when they're hurting, are incapable of 
    understanding anyone's elses feelings but their own 
<phoenyxx> I understand too Jo. 
<Mimi> but ket was bigger than that 
<Jo-> Thank you Moooooooo knew you would. Old Indian custom 
    Great Granny drilled into us and since she was I just 
    can't. bye 
<phoenyxx> Mimi: I admire people like that. 
<Mimi> yeah, Simon... 
<Mimi> she was special 
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<Mimi> and she could be so much fun too :o) 
<phoenyxx> I agree Mimi :-) 
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<Mooooooo> i looked at where she signed our guestbook and 
    laughed my ass off. most people wont get it (inside job) 
    but its so funny :o) 
<Mimi> we had a great time joking around 
<Mimi> I'll miss that 
<Mooooooo> inside joke 
<Mimi> she tried to make peace with all of us too 
<jrt> yesterday I was looking through the guestbook on the 
    disabled web site, and there is a message from Ket back 
    in Feb of this year 
<Mimi> not all of her friends got along together 
<Mimi> :o) 
<phoenyxx> I wished I could more often meet people like 
    her and feel inspired and not feel guilty for not being 
    worse off. In some way, seeing someone more limited trying 
    to adapt shows me what's possible, and from that I can 
    draw some inspiration. 
<Mooooooo> thats the one, debbie 
<phoenyxx> Please don't flame me for the melodrama, only 
    way to express it. 
<turbokev> She was nice to me on the few times when we 
    chatted 
<Mimi> but she would tell us...now that person is not so 
    bad, just take it easy...and show us the good side of the 
    other person that we never saw 
<jrt> yeah it bought a smile to my face too 
<Mimi> she signed my guestbook, too...and its still up 
<Mimi> I saw it yesterday I think 
<Mimi> had a cry when I saw it 
<In> Good-Night everyone, will pray for everyone, will talk 
    soon. 
<codfish> even when channel was busy she made each feel 
    comfy and special 
<turbokev> thats an excellent way to few things 
<Lily> bye in:) 
<mouse> I must go back to bed now. To me she will still 
    be in me - I loved her and I hope she loved me. 
    Blessings all Sorry I have to run. 
<codfish> bye in 
<jrt> yeah,Sarah wants to see the pic I have of Ket, but 
    I know I would burst into tears right now if I looked at 
    it 
<fence> if you could just give me a min to talk about 
    Ket, its real hard and i need to do this 
<jrt> Bye In 
<jrt> Bye Mouse 
<Mimi> OK seth... 
<Lily> bye mouse 
<Mimi> please tell us about her 
<MrLinux> go say what u need to Fence 
<phoenyxx> You know something, I just realized that I never 
    knew what her disability was- she always made sure we knew 
    her as a real person! That I really admire :-) 
<Mooooooo> ok seth 
<hanover9> she was so young and alive that she stired 
    somthing in me that i thought i had lost and she will 
    always be with me now and all of vus that were touched 
    by her will always walk with her in our heart 
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<fence> as most of you know, my coming to this channel 
    was more like seeing howmany times moooo could k line me 
    before the next time 
<fence> and , one thing i will live with , is how i 
    treated Ket 
<fence> as you know i met her twice 
<fence> first time i was out of the house in a year...was 
    to drinbe to see her in her beloved cabin 
<fence> i have a rebuit face 
<fence> i walked in 
<fence> and there stood this beautiful girl... 
<fence> she walked up to me, asked if she could touch my 
    face 
<fence> i nodded 
<fence> she felt it,,,smiled and said its smooth,,,i like 
    it and hugged me 
<fence> first touch i had other than a doctor in two 
    years 
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<fence> that moment meant life to me 
<phoenyxx> wow 
<fence> i couldnt belive it 
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<fence> well, as you know 
<fence> meds dont work all the time for me, no excuse 
<fence> but 
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<fence> i got in a phase 
<fence> and scared her 
<fence> now this channel backed her up 
<fence> loving and protecting her 
<fence> lol and klineing me agina and again 
<fence> each time 
<fence> she wouold mesg me 
<fence> saying 
<fence> please seth, show then who you are 
<fence> dont do this, you need friends 
<fence> theses are good people 
<fence> sometimes she would talk differnt 
<fence> lol like im coming there to ikick your ass if you 
    dont stop seth 
<fence> but slowly 
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<fence> she got trough to me 
<fence> it was her kindnes and love and understanding 
<pie> hi all 
<fence> yuou see 
<fence> not just for me 
<fence> but for mooooooo, who she loved greatly, 
<Ray-1> Hi, pie. 
<turbokev> Sorry I gotta run but she is in my prayers 
<fence> for mimi....her 'sister' and em 'little sister' 
<turbokev> bye 
<fence> hanover, joel jrt 
<fence> all of you 
<fence> she constantly talked to me of all you 
<Mooooooo> :o) 
<fence> worried, laughed, 
<jrt> :) 
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<fence> wanted so much for you all 
<mouse> ))) 
<fence> and of course her jhn 
<fence> who she had a special bond with 
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<fence> now, 
<fence> i would see her come in here many times 
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<fence> say nothing of her pain 
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<fence> which at times, was great 
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* jrt goes over and gives Seth a hug and says I cant 
    replace Ket, but will be here for you anytime 
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<fence> i would see her be conserned over somenone 
<fence> and truely try to help 
<fence> and 
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<pie> who died? 
<fence> do it for the joy of it 
<fence> she loved that 
<fence> we also know 
<fence> that Ket never felt 'good enough' 
<fence> wherer that came from is unimportant now 
<marshal_2> I'm knew...Anyone know about SpinaBifida? 
<fence> but, it hurt us to see that in her....for we know 
<fence> she was far too good 
<fence> also, 
<fence> faceing ahead for her 
<fence> another amputation 
<fence> personal problems in her home life 
<fence> more pain 
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<fence> now, maybe i think i will belive moooo and mimi 
<fence> and say 
<fence> we have an angel 
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<fence> all well and healded 
<marshal_2> Very Sorry 
<fence> she can hear 
<fence> she can run and hike 
<fence> lol she can kick ass 
<mouse> yes, ) 
<Mimi> :o) 
<jrt> :) 
<fence> as for jhn 
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<phoenyxx> If I had know all of that about her I promise 
    I would have stayed away. My sincerest apologies, and I 
    bid farewell. It has been fun while it had lasted but I 
    can't go on like this. Goodbye everyone. :-( 
<fence> i was to paste a message.... 
<Mooooooo> she taught me Kinshika :o) 
<fence> it is froze in my computer 
<fence> as my luck would go 
<fence> but 
<fence> it said 
<Mimi> aww :o( 
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<fence> that he smiles when he thinks of her 
<fence> how she was 
<fence> how she gave allof herself 
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<fence> how he loved her 
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<fence> the two of them had a great bond 
<fence> only few of us experience 
<fence> if ever 
<fence> so, she had that 
<fence> that was happiness 
<fence> and 
<fence> this last week 
<fence> one of the last things we talked about was jhn 
<fence> and 
<fence> mimi and mooooooo 
<fence> she was so excited they had met 
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<fence> it made her cry 
<fence> she was that thrilled for you both 
<Mimi> :o) 
<fence> this was her family, as she had none left 
<fence> this was her love 
<fence> this was her happines 
<fence> not a machine and typing words 
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<fence> but real people 
<fence> real love 
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<fence> she felt it, she gave it 
<mouse> :o) 
<fence> i dont know how to let her go 
<fence> i really dont 
<fence> she changed my life 
<fence> and i need to respct that 
<fence> always 
<fence> i 
<MrLinux> i understand what u mean fence 
<fence> wish i could talk better 
<MrLinux> i mean 
<fence> and do this better for her 
<fence> but 
<fence> she is here 
<fence> tonight 
<fence> in our memories 
<fence> in our hearts 
<jrt> you are doing great Seth 
<MrLinux> i know what u mean by how hard it is to let 
    some 1 go that u loved and cared 4 
<mouse> fence it is beautiful - so beautiful 
<fence> thank you 
<codfish> may the spirits give her truly what is deserved 
    by thecaring and compassionate person she was,is, and will 
    be in our hearts and minds 
<mouse> just let her go but hold her tight inside you too 
<Mimi> seth...yyou have done her proud...just like you 
    wanted to do *hugs* 
<MrLinux> yepers 
<Ais> you've done a wonderful job seth 
<hanover9> do'nt let her go walk with ket in your heart 
    and hold your head up high my friend and count yourself 
    amoung those that were lucky enough to be blessed by 
    knowing her 
<mouse> love you seth - a very wet hug from me 
<Maggie> very wonderful and moving Seth 
* MrLinux hugs Fence, i knw what u mean 
<Mimi> amen hugh 
<Lily> thank you, fence 
<Mooooooo> I think Ket confirmed something that we all 
    realized last november... 
<jrt> I have dedicated the song,'My heart will go on', to 
    my dear friend Ket, and I know one day I will meet her 
    again 
<MrLinux> what was that Dan? 
<Mimi> dont let her go...shes still there for you in a 
    specian and powerful way 
<Mooooooo> that his group is not so much a 'chat room' 
    but more a 'mission' 
<codfish> shes smiling now, thanks to seth 
<Mooooooo> and a family 
<mouse> You know - I see something of her in you tonight 
    seth 
<HelloKit> I'll be back in a minute. 
<MrLinux> very TRUE , very TRUE 
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<hanover9> thanks seth you can now go on with thge life 
    and joy that ket gave you it will be in my heart for 
    ever 
<Mooooooo> and that we all have to look at the impact we 
    have all had in each others life 
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<Mooooooo> and never let that end 
<MrLinux> DAN IS RIGHT 
<mouse> So true Moo 
<Mimi> never 
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<Mimi> everyone here has met someone special and dear to 
    them...and important in their lives 
<MrLinux> if u think about it we r very much like 1 big 
    family 
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<mouse> We are one big family! 
<mouse> And each and everyone of you is important to me 
<Lily> yes, and a very welcoming family thar keeps growing 
<jrt> I tell everybody that we are a big family, because 
    we are, and like I keep telling you all, one day I am 
    going to go and see everyone of you 
<MrLinux> and we all need to remeber the one that make a 
    impact on us no matter if they r here or not we neet to 
    remember them No matter what, its waht will keep us 
    together and will keep us friends, forever 
<codfish> uniqness brings us together,understanding lets us 
    chat but it takes sincerity and love to form friendship 
    and this is a wonderplace 
<Mooooooo> all true 
<mouse> Its a place where we can cry (like now) and love 
    and where everyone accepts each other as we are 
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<MrLinux> true 
<jrt> thats right mouse 
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<codfish> the way the world should be and hopefully will 
    be one day 
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<MrLinux> we all need to stick together, thick or thin 
<jrt> yes accept people for what they are and not what 
    they look like 
<hanover9> let us all take that extra mesure of love that 
    she gave toeach of usand use it to heal our selves 
<mouse> I think we have been left a high standard to try 
    to attain; but even if we dont we each give of our best 
    and are loved for that 
<jrt> yes Hugh I agree 
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<Mimi> never forget to tell the people you love how much 
    you love them 
<Mimi> and to do it often and sincerely 
<hanover9> when ever she talked to me she was always 
    interested in the happiness of her family thats all of us 
<jrt> I remember the day that Ket told me she was A 
    native american, she was almost bowing to me, and I told 
    her, I am honoured to meet and be her firend 
<jrt> friend 
<jrt> I was trying to learn her language, so I could 
    surise her onday, but that day never really came 
<jrt> surprise 
<jrt> oneday 
<jrt> ping me 
<Mooooooo> i only learned a few words 
<mouse> Yes I remember you telling me that jrt 
<Mooooooo> Kinshika 
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<Mooooooo> roughly translates to kick ass 
<jrt> I learned how to say hello and how are you, I have 
    lists of other words, but will never get to use them 
<Mooooooo> and: agika: etta-sipa-wa nee-awtanshe 
<mouse> Why don't you teach us and we could use them 
<Mooooooo> and we all know what that was :o) 
<mouse> Daniel - did you know how to pronounce that? 
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<jrt> Aanish na?,how are you 
<jrt> aanii,hello 
<Mooooooo> nope, but she guaranteed me it would get me a 
    nice indian girl :o) 
<Mimi> lol 
<codfish> lol 
<fence> lol 
<Lily> lol 
<mouse> :o) 
<jrt> lol 
<HelloKit> lol 
<Ais> ;) 
<Mooooooo> or slapped 
<codfish> she was great for girl tips 
<rose> :o) 
<MrLinux> BBL LATER YALL GOTTA, GREAVE IN MY OWN WAY 
* HelloKit hugs Scott. 
<jrt> okay Scott 
<MrLinux> bb in 10mins 
<HelloKit> brb 
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<Mooooooo> so many fun memories :o) 
<jrt> yes she was such a sweet and gentle person:) 
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<fence> and damn sexy...lets not forget that..... 
<Mooooooo> very sexy :o) 
<jrt> well from a guys piont of view seth, I dont go 
    round saying other women are sexy:) 
<fence> she could get the room goign some times 
<codfish> may love from her heart never set like the sun 
    but may it arise at the dawn of our need 
<hanover9> i'll never forget that 
<rose> I have to go, goodnight all and hugs to all :o) 
<Mimi> seth...she used to show me funny things that you 
    had said...probably in an attempt to get me to soften my 
    point of view regarding you :o) 
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<hanover9> nite dear 
<jrt> I always looked forward to seeing her:) 
<mouse> She is one with my beginning on irc and I will 
    remember her always. Really going this time. ))) 
<jrt> night rose 
<Lily> please share your memories from time to time with 
    those of us that didn't know her very well 
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<jrt> night mouse 
<Lily> bye'rose 
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<Mooooooo> and lets not forget, she taught me not to 
    k-line seth :o) 
<HelloKit> lol 
<fence> lol 
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<codfish> lol 
<jrt> lol 
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<codfish> he still needs trout slapping once in a while 
<fence> lol 
<HelloKit> heh 
<Ais> hehe 
<jrt> yeah but we all do from time to time 
<HelloKit> Especially Mooooooo... 
<HelloKit> ;o) 
<fence> i remember i came in here one time and she had 
    the room dancing on tables..lol 
<Mimi> yeah...for her sake I decided that I would talk to 
    seth and jhn and try to see if my original opinion needed 
    adjusting ;o) 
<Mimi> yep :o) 
<Mimi> lol 
<Mooooooo> with carrots 
<Mooooooo> /:o) 
<HelloKit> lol 
<Mimi> not only that...but lap dancing 
<fence> lol 
<Mimi> but she would always push mrwild onto me 
<jrt> lol 
<hanover9> she knew how to shake it 
<Mimi> lol 
<fence> lol 
<HelloKit> lol 
<Lily> lol 
<Mimi> she could even shake it to 
<Mimi> to Happy Birthday 
<fence> how could you not love her 
<Mimi> for hugh, once :o) 
<Mimi> on a table 
<fence> she did? 
<Mooooooo> lol 
<Mimi> yep :o) 
<fence> i missed that one 
<Mimi> she hopped on the table, 'swayed her butt to 'Happy 
    Birthday' for hugh' 
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<fence> i caught the tale end of the snowman adventure 
    with moooo and i think joel 
<Mimi> I missed the snowman adventure 
<Mooooooo> that was a fun day 
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<fence> i didnt catch it all....but i think that is where 
    the carrots came in to play 
<usn21> hi gang 
<hanover9> it was a great treat 
<jrt> Hi usn 
<hanover9> it was a great treat 
<usn21> hey debi 
<Lily> night all, must go, hugs 
<jrt> night Lily 
<Ais> bye lil 
<Maggie> night lily 
<fence> man jhn her and i could sure cut it up too 
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<fence> made me laugh days later thinking about things 
    sometimes 
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<codfish> i was hungary 
<kd305> HEY HEY EVERYBODY 
<jrt> Hi Kd 
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<Mimi> hi kelley 
<usn21> hi kd 
<kd305> HEY KIT how was tonight's meeting 
<Mimi> me too, seth 
<Mimi> I'd laugh days afterwards :o) 
<kd305> HEY JRT 
<jrt> wb phoenyxx 
<Mimi> she's laughing with us right now, I just know it 
    :o) 
<kd305> HI MIMI 
<phoenyxx> I am back, sorry for bailing like that, just 
    things really getting to me. 
<kd305> I guess it is still going on 
<kd305> :) 
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<jrt> she is, and now her katchup fetish will be over too 
<Maggie> Ket brought joy to everyone and can now see how 
    much of an impact she was and is proud 
<jrt> thats okay phoenyxx 
<phoenyxx> what I was trying to say, was that people like 
    Keteri are so special and I wished I could have just a 
    fraction of their strength. I mean, I never saw her 
    complain about anything, and I come in here griping about 
    stupid things. 
<Mimi> Ket did a whole lot of good and spread a whole 
    lot of love before she left us 
<Mimi> that's something she and we as her friends can be 
    proud of 
<fence> to her, they werent stupid things phoenyexx 
<Mimi> and God is smiling on her for it 
<jrt> here, here Mimi:) 
<jrt> I agree:) 
<Mimi> everything was important to her 
<phoenyxx> yeah mimi :-) 
<Mimi> she used to ask me, weeks after some crisis of 
    mine was over, if I was still OK 
<codfish> :0)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 
<Mimi> she never forgot if I told her about a problem 
<Mimi> she always cared 
<fence> thats true mimi 
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<kd305> I didnt know ket very well or very long but I 
    really enjoyed the few times I did talk to her... 
<Mimi> hi denise 
<kd305> and she was excited about getting married 
<Amazin1> hi :) 
<phoenyxx> I want to be able to give and share as much. 
<Mimi> the fact that she remembered showed how much she 
    really and truly cared 
<fence> yes mimi 
<codfish> i tkink to meet her was to know her because she 
    was so real,like an old lost friend 
<jrt> yes she was:) 
<fence> right away you felt comfortable with her 
<fence> because she focused on you....not herself 
<Mimi> yep 
<Mimi> that's exactly it 
<fence> if she talked to you...you were the center of 
    attention 
<fence> and she loved that 
<Mimi> yep 
<jrt> yep:) 
<Mimi> I can't say it enough... 
<fence> i bet she got more personal things out of you all 
    sometimes than you even remember 
<Mimi> thats exactly the way to describe her, seth...her 
    friends were the center of her attention 
<Mimi> she sure did seth! 
<Mimi> more than I ever intended on sharing LOL 
<jrt> she did seth:) 
<phoenyxx> same here Mimi :-) 
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<fence> lol shit me too...she even knows about the back 
    seat of my chevy in 95 
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<Mimi> a couple times at first I wondered if I had said 
    too much...but you were always safe with ket 
<phoenyxx> Like I said, I hope I can help people the way 
    she did. 
<Max_Send> wow, everyone is here 
<jrt> Hi Max 
<kd305> well friends just wanted to say HI TTFN :) 
<HelloKit> Dinner time here, guys... I'm going to go ahead 
    and turn off the logs unless anyone objects. 
<jrt> bye KD 
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<Mimi> I object 
<Mimi> :o) 
<HelloKit> heh ok 
<Mimi> we're not done yet 
<Mimi> :o) 
<HelloKit> k 
<jrt> yeah we want to share some more:) 
<fence> i'm glad she had a bond with jhn 
<Mimi> maybe that was part of what she was put here on 
    this earth for 
<Maggie> and you seth 
<fence> they wwent way back together 
<Mimi> to teach us all about how to really care about 
    others 
<Mimi> I wish jhn was here 
<fence> me too...and i wanted to type what he wrote 
<fence> they knew each other before disabled 
<phoenyxx> nicely put Mimi, about how she taught us to 
    care about one another :-) 
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<fence> she was his gf best friend 
<jrt> yeah but its hard for him, his time difference from 
    me is like 3 hours I think?? 
<codfish> god bless be well 
<fence> he doesnt have computer access at this time of day 
<Mimi> he told me that she helped him enormously when his 
    gf died 
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<Mimi> and I can really believe that 
<fence> yeah, that was ket s best friend 
<Mimi> I never knew that 
<jrt> yes she was good at that:) 
<fence> and he was there for her when kets dad died last 
    year 
<Mimi> I'm glad she had him, too 
<fence> ket and lark where friends in rl 
<Ais> yeah, so am i 
<Mimi> God blessed them with each other 
<Mimi> I know that feeling :o) 
<fence> thats right 
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<fence> jhn's loss is great 
<Mimi> sometimes, friendships are as much made in heaven as 
    marriages are 
<phoenyxx> I have a special friendship like that Mimi- my 
    friend Kristin and I are very close :-) 
<Mimi> me too simon... 
<jrt> yeah I know seth, I really feel for him, and you 
<Mimi> I just met him, too 
<phoenyxx> ah! 
<phoenyxx> :-) 
<Mimi> me too, for both of you 
<fence> i wish though that the last few weeks had been 
    different for her 
<Mimi> so do I seth 
<fence> she was suffering in many ways 
<Mimi> I wish she'd known a bit more happiness before she 
    died 
<fence> but she came here to this channel and to 
    jhn....and was happy 
<Maggie> btu now I am sure she has all the happiness...God 
    would give her that now 
<jrt> and I seth, she didnt deserve any of what she had 
    to put up with 
<Mimi> maybe she didn't know a lot of happiness but she 
    know a lot of love 
<fence> no, i will always regret not getting in my car 
    and going to Kansas 
<fence> she did....she had love 
<Mimi> you couldn't have known seth 
<fence> she told me that daily 
<phoenyxx> you all mentioned being able to open up to 
    her--reminds me how I've met more people recently by simply 
    opening up. 
<fence> but i knew things were bad there for her mimi 
<jrt> The last time I spoke to Ket, she was so happy, I 
    could feel her happiness 
<Max_Send> i feel terrible and i dont know who died 
<Mimi> seth, don't go there hon 
<fence> ok i know 
<Ais> don't blame yourself seth, you couldn't have known 
<fence> its just what pops in the mind...what ifs 
<jrt> none of us could see into the future 
<Mimi> hindsight is always 20-20 seth 
<Mimi> that's the nature of life 
<Maggie> you just can;t go back..if Ket has wanted you to 
    come Seth...I believe she would have asked you too..she 
    knew she could count on you 
<jrt> yeah I know, I had to stop myself from thinking 
    that way Seth 
<fence> like the car accident....last thing i ever would 
    have thought of but you know what she would have said?? 
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    me was not true! :-) 
<fence> ' 
<Maggie> what fence 
<fence> she once said to me when i ask ed her 'why you' 
    about her amputation, deafness 
<fence> and she said to me 
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<fence> well seth ..why NOT me? things happen to people 
    all the time 
<fence> it was never a 'why me ' thing with her 
<hanover9> she was wise for one so young 
<Ais> yes, she was 
<jrt> yes she was 
<Mimi> wow 
<fence> she was... but it bothered her all the time she 
    was not 'schooled' like the rest 
<fence> educated....shoot she knew more things that never 
    gets learned in a college 
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<hanover9> she wowed me daily with her take on life 
<jrt> she was schooled in the way of true wisdom and 
    love, schooloing means nothing, but love does 
<Maggie> I don't know how she was schooled but it would 
    be great if alot of people were so schooled in her acts 
    of kindness and the way she treated people 
<phoenyxx> agree! 
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<fence> i;m tired, but i feel so much better 
<Mimi> me too :o) 
<jrt> I know in all my life that I have left, that I 
    willl never meet anybody quite like our Beloved ket 
<Mooooooo> ditto 
<phoenyxx> ditto too jrt. 
<Mimi> I feel happy now...just like Ket wants all of us 
    to feel 
<fence> the sadness is still there...and it feels 
    terrible...but i have such a peace am so lucky to have 
    known her 
<phoenyxx> me too Mimi 
<jrt> same here Mimi and Seth:) 
<hanover9> we were all lucky 
<Mimi> we sure were 
<Mimi> you were especially seth, to have met her 
<fence> i was 
<phoenyxx> brb 
<fence> i'll never forget her touch 
<jrt> yes you were seth:) 
<fence> and that smile 
<Mimi> I bet it was so wonderful 
<hanover9> i'm just sorry that i missed my chance to meet 
    her 
<fence> she was 
<Mimi> you'll always have these special memories, and 
    they'll make you smile 
<fence> yeah 
<fence> i just wish there was going to be more of them 
<hanover9> seth it must have been great because she could 
    make you feel her touch through the comp so in person it 
    must have been wonderful 
<fence> but maybe..they will be 'unseen' memoreis....as she 
    helps me go through life 
<jrt> we all do seth, but at least we had a chance to 
    be able to have some at least 
<Ais> yes seth 
<Mimi> I do believe that seth... 
<Mimi> she is still there, and will always be there 
<Maggie> don't you think they will kep poping up? I do!! 
<Mimi> praying for you 
<Mimi> listening to you 
<fence> yeah 
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<Mimi> like a guardian angel 
<fence> so tired...i cant type anymopre sorry just want to 
    say 
<fence> thank you for this tonight... 
<jrt> she is watching over us all now, and making sure we 
    all look after one another, they way she looked after us 
<Mimi> thank you seth, for sharing this with us 
<Ais> thank you seth 
<jrt> thankyou Seth 
<Maggie> You did Ket proud Seth 
<phoenyxx> bacl 
<hanover9> seth that was great it helped, thanks 
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<jrt> yes she is looking over you now seth and smiling 
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<fence> bbl 
<HelloKit> Later Seth. 
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<hanover9> ok my friend 
<Ais> ok seth 
<jrt> bye Seth 
<Maggie> bye fence take care 
<hanover9> maybe you can rest now seth 
<Mooooooo> nite seth 
<phoenyxx> I'm about to sound very melodramatic but all I 
    can say now is that I hope we can carry the 'caring and 
    sharing' that Keteri did so well here :-) 
<jrt> yes, I know I will try:) 
<hanover9> i know this evening has been weighing heavily on 
    your mind 
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<Mimi> hello 
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<Mimi> sigh 
<hanover9> hi dear 
<HelloKit> Hi Walter 
<Ais> wb Mimi 
<jrt> wb Mimi 
<jrt> Hi Sky 
<hanover9> bbl 
<Mimi> thanks 
<sky-pilot> helllo, helokit and all. 
<jrt> okay Hugh:) 
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<LordUnix> hello yall 
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